10050 cielo drive

[yellowperil]

The morning of August 9-69, Jay Sebring's Porsche, Folgers Firebird. A gruesome day about to unfold.

Hope this isn't too creepy, or too close to home. Any history on the Porsche?

[GH85Carrera]

So is this is test of everyone's memory or Google skills?

I guess if you lived in the area it might really mean something. For everyone else it is a trivia question. It looks like California tags but it is hard to tell for sure. It could be in almost any state from the picture. 1969 and big crime events brings up Manson and his crazies. Manson has been the poster child for the death penalty since he was convicted. How many millions of dollars have been wasted keeping him alive? Too many.

[yellowperil]

I just thought it was an interesting picture of an interesting subject brought to mind by the recent passing of Mr Bugliosi,
also having just reread "Helter Skelter" by Bugliosi and a new longer book version of these events "Manson" by Jeff Quinn

[Holger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10050_Cielo_Drive

In February 1969, Roman Polanski and his wife Sharon Tate began renting the home from Altobelli. On August 9, 1969, the home became the scene of the murders of Tate (and her unborn baby boy of eight and a half months), Wojciech Frykowski, Abigail Folger, Jay Sebring, and Steven Parent at the hands of the Manson "Family".

[Steve Carlton]

Yay! Porsche content in a hideous mass murder!

[BE911SC]

Vincent Bugliosi just died last week. (Edit: I see that was already mentioned above.)

They were there to kill the previous occupant Terry Melcher but found Tate and company instead. They walked right in. This is one reason everyone has guns now and locks their doors.

[LakeCleElum]

This is not about a computer storage device, is it?

[JavaBrewer]

I'm not superstitious but holy hell there's no way I would have lived in that home after the massacre. Doubt I would have built new on it either.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

I'm not superstitious but holy hell there's no way I would have lived in that home after the massacre. Doubt I would have built new on it either.

As long as it was cleaned up properly what possible difference can it make? I guess the weirdos that want to visit the place would get annoying.

[URY914]

And Jay Sebring changed his name in honor of the race track.

"...he changed his name to Jay Sebring: Jay, after the first initial of his middle name, and Sebring after the famous Florida car race."

No wonder he drove a 911.

[Sarc]

Originally Posted by URY914

And Jay Sebring changed his name in honor of the race track.

"...he changed his name to Jay Sebring: Jay, after the first initial of his middle name, and Sebring after the famous Florida car race."

No wonder he drove a 911.

Sebring and McQueen were partners in crime with regards to the ladies. Sebring had invited McQueen to the party that night but he got a last minute hookup instead and elected to go out with his new friend instead. McQueen gave the eulogy at Sebring's funeral*

*So I've been told (countless times) by a college acquaintance whose uncle worked for Solar productions back in the day.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum

This is not about a computer storage device, is it?

I don't feel so bad because I clicked on the thread thinking jus that...

Now I'm off to find Porsche content RE: the Donner party.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Sarc

Sebring and McQueen were partners in crime with regards to the ladies. Sebring had invited McQueen to the party that night but he got a last minute hookup instead and elected to go out with his new friend instead. McQueen gave the eulogy at Sebring's funeral*

*So I've been told (countless times) by a college acquaintance whose uncle worked for Solar productions back in the day.

They were good friends, Sebring cut his hair and advised him on what cool clothes to wear, (like the roll neck sweaters and Persols), what today would be known as a "stylist", most movie stars have them. McQueen was justifiably scared schitless in the days following and reportedly packed a gun at Sebring's funeral then went into hiding for a bit.

As for the 911, it doesn't get any lamer than a '68 911L Sportomatic but hey, it's a Porsche.

[speeder]

Also, I worked on a major remodel/flip on Cielo Dr. in about 1989 and the house was still there. It was torn down sometime not long after and a new ugly BH mega pad went in with a slightly revised address. Like 10060 instead of 10050 or something. So the old address no longer exists. This is a not uncommon thing in LA RE when an unfortunate address might hamper a sale; Reagan's retirement home on St. Cloud Dr. in Bel Air was changed from 666 to 668 when they bought it as a condition of the sale.

[Sarc]

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

I'm not superstitious but holy hell there's no way I would have lived in that home after the massacre. Doubt I would have built new on it either.

We rent a cabin from time to time up in the northern part of the state. Phenomenal spot steps away from Lake Michigan with sunsets and views rivaling anything on the west coast (in the warm seasons at least).
One night I was kicking back reading a book from the bookshelf about a family that was murdered in their cabin back in the summer of 1968. Gruesome stuff as the killer(s) closed up the cabin and turned the heat on to let the remains roast in summer heat for a solid month. After some google sleuthing, it turns out the scene of the crime was the vacant parcel of land right next door to us!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robison_family_murders


Suddenly I lost the desire to find out if the parcel was available for purchase...

[cornernfool]

The Pontiac Firebird with a 400 incher and Torque Thrust wheels isn't no slouch either!

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by cornernfool

The Pontiac Firebird with a 400 incher and Torque Thrust wheels isn't no slouch either!

Yeah, nice looking car. Yellow with black vinyl. Tate's Camaro was there also.
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