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[Fast Freddy 944]

Originally Posted by cashflyer

Dang it... When I looked at the pic, I thought that she was wearing a hat.

I'm just gonna say that I would not hire her.
Not because of boots, or hat hair, or tats.... but because she's Irish.

My wife is Irish. I have learned my lesson already, thanks.

I have 28% Irish in my blood. But I know that being a rebel wont put food on the table. LOL, her hair does look like a hat.

Irish wife eh? Walking on egg shells I bet lol.

[legion]

Originally Posted by Laneco

The lead in the article states "she has been looking for a job for four months..."

May I suggest that perhaps there is another problem than her nose piercing or hair cut?

angela

I could see myself looking for at least that long, but finding a different job for me would probably involve moving to a different part of the country and finding the right fit for my specialized skills.

When I worked entry-level jobs that pretty much required just showing up, I would land those jobs in less than a week.

[Gogar]

You guys don't understand that the milennial generation thinks individuality is a skill set.

[Fast Freddy 944]

Originally Posted by Gogar

You guys don't understand that the milennial generation thinks individuality is a skill set.

I agree with your statement Gogar, but at some point folks get serious, and become adults, being a rebel wont put food in yer belly, and pay your bills. Hell every generation has had its rebels, but they grew up too. You can "dig" your tunes and life style, but employers want someone they can depend on to do the job. My suggestion for all melinnials is to work in a factory, no kidding, it will toughen em' up real fine.

[yazhound]

Funny all this ... I have a tatted assistant that works rings around all the more traditional staff. She would be most difficult to replace. More so than the rest who are not duffers. Had I said no because she has tats it would have been my loss. And she is bilingual to boot.

I more put off by gents who think tasseled dress shoes are a good idea. not...

[fastfredracing]

I've often wondered how much refusing to cut my hair when I was a young punk made an impact on my life.
I just would not take jobs where they wanted me to cut my hair and be all clean cut, and , in the 80's, this could be reality . I had several employers tell me I would have to cut my hair to work there.
I just went elsewhere. "No smart wife killin' banker was going to tell me where the bear ****s in the buckwheat. "
Like the fast one says. I had to take jobs that may had been a little bit rougher around the edges, but ultimately , made me man up, and not be a puss anymore .
If you wanna be different, you gotta except that you are going to be treated different. Just they way it is .

That being said, I think also think she is cute. Not offensive at all . Probably a whiny little pia though.

[flipper35]

I think this is why she was not hired.

"“I’m not doing that, I don’t want to work for a company like that who will say something like that … that will stop an interview based on how I look.”"

The attitude to go with it is a big deal.

[MBAtarga]

On a whim - I just looked in Facebook and found her account. No terribly incriminating pictures that I saw, but did take a screen snapshot - work experience and education? Granted, Facebook isn't a resume, but..... recent two spotty short term jobs - and she "done some learns"?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by MBAtarga

On a whim - I just looked in Facebook and found her account. No terribly incriminating pictures that I saw

That's a shame.

but did take a screen snapshot - work experience and education? Granted, Facebook isn't a resume, but..... recent two spotty short term jobs - and she "done some learns"?

hilarious! Looks like I need to update my facebook with a new education status.

[Wetwork]

[QUOTE=Fast Freddy 944;9505628]I agree with your statement Gogar, but at some point folks get serious, and become adults, being a rebel wont put food in yer belly, and pay your bills. Hell every generation has had its rebels, but they grew up too. You can "dig" your tunes and life style, but employers want someone they can depend on to do the job. My suggestion for all melinnials is to work in a factory, no kidding, it will toughen em' up real fine.

QUOTE]

I agree with all and will take this part of the statement, one further: Employers want someone who can make them money. This is really the bottom line, if your 'statement' causes or may cause your place of work to loose money you are not worth keeping or hiring.

Went to this Ranching for Profit class, lasted a week. Great class if you are into ranching. Anyways.... No kidding, this class explained how if a son or daughter returns to take over a cattle ranch from the parents you need to do up a contract. This contract needs to indicate you returning will make the ranch "X" much money in extra profit. Not loss, profit. To cover the loss the ranch would be getting by taking you back in. It got more in depth but you get the idea.-WW

[ckelly78z]

So many cute girls think that tattoos, multiple piercings, wild clothing, and multicolored hair give them character and individuality. I say, it really makes them like cheap whores......just completely not my style.

I can't believe the money they spend trying to look that way as well, could be better spent on some decent threads, and a nice haircut, to get that job they want.

I worked 15 years on a hot rubber factory production floor, before I got my nice A/Cd prototype job with the same company. Working like that 7 days a week for months on end builds some muscle, work ethic, and character that so many millenials could use.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by widebody911

I often wonder what some of these freaks I see around town do for a living. There's guys - and gals - I see locally with tats and weird pieces of metal all over their faces and for fun I imagine them as a attorney in court, or a lobbyist trying to sway a congressman...

Interestingly, I've noticed one employer that seems to be collecting all the "it's my body and I'll let myself go and/or deface it however the fck I want" people - the DMV. I see some of the most bizarre people working there that I don't think could get away with their "style" out in the real world.

When I lived in Albany NY, there was a weirdo who hung around Lark Street.

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I guess he moved to Austin, TX. Keeping Austin weird.

[RedBaron]

Let's do a quick google search and see some of the images that come up...





Someone with some common sense would probably figure out that you have to dress/groom in a moderately conservative fashion to work there.

Nahhhh, instead she complains about it online and hasn't found a job for four months.

i hate my generation.

[Cajundaddy]

Foolish interviewer.

Never judge an applicant by their appearance AND THEN TELL THEM ABOUT IT! Sheesh!
If you don't get a good vibe from someone of they come dressed in a style far outside your company norm, they didn't do their homework. If they didn't do their homework to get the job they probably won't do it to keep the job either. Be polite, expedite the rest of your interview, thank them for coming in, and toss their app in the trash. They wasted your time and theirs.

I hire a lot of people and many have had shaved heads, tats, beards or other personal style cues over the years. Many have been immigrants from Europe, central and south America, and a few from Africa. We work with the public but no longer in a retail setting. In 40 years of doing business it is rare for a client to complain about appearance but if they feel ignored or if the employee was rude or hostile they are quick to comment.

I have chosen not to hire based on employment history, personal hygiene, self-absorbed attitude, and in a few cases, simply too attractive. A few absolutely stunning women have applied for office positions and I would be working very closely with them. Far too much temptation in very close proximity... not going there. I simply chose someone "more uniquely qualified for the position".

[jyl]

She looks fine. This is a low end, main street retail job. If she is otherwise qualified, then her appearance is no problem.

Whether she is qualified, none of us really know. Expecting a Facebook page to read like a CV is silly; I imagine many of your FB pages wouldn't thrill a hiring manager. If her LinkedIn page read that way, that's a different story.

I agree with angela that something else may be going on. Unemployment in the UK is 4.9%, so they are overall at essentially full employment, like the US. Maybe she is a high school dropout or comes off weird or something.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

So many cute girls think that tattoos, multiple piercings, wild clothing, and multicolored hair give them character and individuality. I say, it really makes them like cheap whores......just completely not my style.

I can't believe the money they spend trying to look that way as well, could be better spent on some decent threads, and a nice haircut, to get that job they want.

I worked 15 years on a hot rubber factory production floor, before I got my nice A/Cd prototype job with the same company. Working like that 7 days a week for months on end builds some muscle, work ethic, and character that so many millenials could use.

What's a factory ? Oh, right. I think we used to have some of those.

[jyl]

We (the US) make plenty of stuff, our industrial production today is about 2X higher (adjusted for inflation) than in the 1970s. But we don't need as many workers or factories to do it.

[fintstone]

When I hire someone, I look at several things. 1) Will they fit in with my current staff, 2) will they get along with all of my customers, 3) will their appearance intimidate customers (unless hiring a bouncer or similar), 4) do they seem to have obvious issues or mental problems that might come back to haunt me/cost me customers or other good employees, 5) do they seem responsible, 6) do they have good judgment, 7) do they seem honest, 8) are they potentially a long term employee worth the effort to train?

By nature, most small business owners are and have to be very conservative as they generally do not have sufficient capital to make too many mistakes. One lawsuit will put you out of business...even if you win. Also, it is much , much harder to fire than to hire right in the first place. Although the woman is dressed ok, one would assume that a person look the best and most conservative when they are being interviewed and will look less put-together over time. If you hire a person with strange hair, visible tattoos and piercing implies that you find those as cool and acceptable as the wearer does. One can only assume that once they start getting a regular paycheck from you, they will add additional "art". The fact that she shaved the sides of her head (can't see it much in the one photo) to look like "tank girl" is enough to make me not hire her...similarly the visible tats and nose ring. If she wants a entry level job dealing with the public and is not smart enough to ensure that she has can cover up any art that she might have, then she is just not too bright. Posting attacks against a potential employer and her stupid rationale even further prevents her from getting a good job. To think employers cannot use the internet/google is silly.

If you have some sort of mad skills, you may well be able to do whatever you want. The rest of us have to remain within societal norms. Where I work, short hair and a dark suit are expected. If you interview differently, you will find it very difficult to overcome your image as the rest of your experience, skills, education are likely really not as special as you think.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by RedBaron

Let's do a quick google search and see some of the images that come up...

Pretty conservative looking folks.

https://www.google.com/search?q=boots+drug+store&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CYk7jNyr5D0PIjjZHTNt8_1sJ625xSBEHjWFow26B B8iOkBxzsEdh9rDs0AYvNptDiWIEno3IbWhjHlJ58AuXNQRKii oSCdkdM23z-wnrEd4Ri2LZj8UhKhIJbnFIEQeNYWgR9yJIrDuz11QqEgnDboE HyI6QHBHt80FkYqXfrCoSCXOwR2H2sOzQESYWgirELtAoKhIJB i82m0OJYgQRox7x5N-iviYqEgmejchtaGMeUhHY2FpL6BfqkSoSCXnwC5c1BEqKEQnNP X9sIsEz&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiT6KrRh8_SAhVLSCYKHYgQDOoQ9C8IGw&biw=1280&bih=868&dpr=1

[Fast Freddy 944]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

So many cute girls think that tattoos, multiple piercings, wild clothing, and multicolored hair give them character and individuality. I say, it really makes them like cheap whores......just completely not my style.

I can't believe the money they spend trying to look that way as well, could be better spent on some decent threads, and a nice haircut, to get that job they want.

I worked 15 years on a hot rubber factory production floor, before I got my nice A/Cd prototype job with the same company. Working like that 7 days a week for months on end builds some muscle, work ethic, and character that so many millenials could use.

LOL!Yeup you are right, Time for the Millie's to get a factory job! There is no shame in it.