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The high beltline is not about styling, it's a consequence of pedestrian crash regs. Higher hood -> Higher cowl -> Higher seats -> Higher roof -> Higher beltline -> Bigger wheels.  http://www.caranddriver.com/features/taking-the-hit-how-pedestrian-protection-regs-make-cars-fatter-feature 
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			interesting, the camaro has taken it to such an extreme though. Maybe they would have to raise the roofline to get more glass. I think even 2 cm would help tons though. Poor visibility really hinders the driving experience in my experience.
		 
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 For me,"No GM" is a political decision made after the Government takeover resulting in the stock and bond holders of the old GM getting the shaft. 
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			Car & Driver is really not what I would call a trusted source for rebutting myths that car manufacturers want us to believe.  Cars were huge and belt/sill lines were high long before European pedestrian impact standards were a thing.  Crash safety and other regulations have been used to counter the 'why are cars so big and fat' argument for a long time.  I am not an expert on the issue.  It's possible that safety regulations are exactly the reason, and customers not wanting to drive a smaller car than their neighbors plays no role at all.  But I don't think that's the case.  I think that it's easier to market large cars than small ones because of a persistent link between perceived status and vehicle size.  It's no accident that even Porsche sells more SUVs than sports cars; consumers feel that sitting up high (or at least appearing to) means they are more in control of their surroundings.
		 
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			Jack, one of the several reasons I have for selling my '72 was the freeway driving conditions of today.  A near miss with a huge SUV when I was drivng it up to Rothsport scared the krap out of me.  It wasn't the car damage I was worried about.  It was not living to cry about the damage.  A 2440 curb weight car vs. the porkers of today?   The near miss was not my fault, but if the hit had happened, it wouldn't have mattered. I'd have been "dead right". L.A. is no longer the only "worst traffic" city on the west coast. Portland is hanging in there with it. Also, not just C&D...Car magazines are really about trying to get readers to want to buy cars from car makers who place the advertising. 
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			It’s a very valid point.  And unfortunately, there’s no way to 'update' the older cars in terms of safety.  That is one way the new cars definitely ARE superior.
		 
				__________________ Jack Olsen 1972 911 My new video about my garage. • A video from German TV about my 911 | ||
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			Hey Jack, love your car, but you do have a DME... So it's not entirely computer free.
		 
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			True.  A data recorder as well.
		 
				__________________ Jack Olsen 1972 911 My new video about my garage. • A video from German TV about my 911 | ||
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