ARGH! Red light cameras!

[wayner]

Ive never been dinged before.
now, I've been dinged twice in the last few months after getting a big SUV.

Everything in that vehicle happens so slow, and everything about the new red light cameras now happens so fast. (A glimpse of yellow and immediate red)

Seriously, I am now selling the SUV next month and going back to something sportier, faster responding and that stops quicker.

[recycled sixtie]

Originally Posted by wayner

Ive never been dinged before.
now, I've been dinged twice in the last few months after getting a big SUV.

Everything in that vehicle happens so slow, and everything about the new red light cameras now happens so fast. (A glimpse of yellow and immediate red)

Seriously, I am now selling the SUV next month and going back to something sportier, faster responding and that stops quicker.

It could never be the driver. It must be that big bad suv with unintended acceleration....

[wayner]

:d

[gacook]

Arizona voted the red light/speed cameras out. So glad.

[Evans, Marv]

Some years back in S.D., they had red light cameras. After a while the company that supplied them shortened the length of the yellow lights so they would make more money, since they got a portion of the ticket receipts. When that was found out, the red light cameras went out the window pretty quickly.

[drkshdw]

Here the number of accidents went up. Twice as many since installing them. Because the yellow lights last about 2 seconds so people slam on their brakes to avoid the $120 ticket and get rear ended. Proof that they aren't about 'safety' but rather profits.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by wayner

Ive never been dinged before.
now, I've been dinged twice in the last few months after getting a big SUV.

Everything in that vehicle happens so slow, and everything about the new red light cameras now happens so fast. (A glimpse of yellow and immediate red)

Seriously, I am now selling the SUV next month and going back to something sportier, faster responding and that stops quicker.

You might have a good court case. "glimpse of yellow"? Perhaps there are national or state standards on the length of time a yellow needs to be. I'd go back to the intersection with a stopwatch...also measure the width of the street. I beat a long ago red light ticket (Trap) by using TSD math, proving it was possible to enter the intersection on green and the light turning red before you got through it when driving the posted limit. Luckily, I got an honest judge. Said he was going to have a talk with someone about this...got the feeling I wouldn't want to be that someone.

[Evans, Marv]

Originally Posted by drkshdw

Here the number of accidents went up. Twice as many since installing them. Because the yellow lights last about 2 seconds so people slam on their brakes to avoid the $120 ticket and get rear ended. Proof that they aren't about 'safety' but rather profits.

Yep. Had the same situation in this area.

[RKDinOKC]

What pwd says. Have beaten a red light ticket as well the same way and the cop was the first car waiting on the cross street.

Time the yellow light and record the speed limit leading up to the light.
Determine the stopping distance of your vehicle from that speed.
If the light is too short for your SUV to safely stop from the posted speed, fight it.
And remember there is some reaction time required before you can apply the brakes.

Also were there any cars behind you that would have hit your SUV had you stopped too quickly.

[KFC911]

Same here as posted...all bs...long gone

I ignored the one I recieved...they said it would ding my credit...I said I so what? BS all the way around....

[Jeff Higgins]

Here in Washington, the law states that if you entered the intersection under the yellow, you are good to go.

Even with that difference, however, our accidents have gone up. The insurance companies would rather pay out on a dozen low speed rear-enders than one full speed broadside, though, so that's what is driving it.

It's certainly not revenue anymore. It's been demonstrated just about everywhere that has these that eventually the populace gets "trained", and the number of tickets drops dramatically. Here in my town, we have reached the point where the fees from Traffic Solutions Inc., the provider of the cameras, are exceeding the revenue. Oh, they get a percentage as well, but that is only after the operational/maintenance fees are paid. TS Inc. gets paid first, not the city. They ain't stupid.

[gwood]

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[RKDinOKC]

The made the lights longer here to reduce the number of people racing to get thru before the red. Guess if you have less light cycles in a day because they are longer you reduce the number of red lights.

Oh, and those frames are illegal too.

[Tobra]

I just got one of those, for going through a green light. Have to pay the fine before you can appeal it. Pretty good racket.

[GH85Carrera]

If your SUV is something from the last 10 years, I bet it stops plenty fast to avoid the ticket. It may require standing on the brakes and letting the ABS hammer away, but it would stop.

I am not suggesting that is the best way to do it, but it will stop.

[wayner]

It would stop if my winter boots weren't so heavy as to slow down my foots action time, and if the new tires would hold on the frozen road, and if my brain worked a little bit quicker in its half thawed condition, but then I'd just get hit in the back of the head by an erant box of kleenex, knocking me out and sending me careening into the pedestrians on the sidewalk

[LeeH]

Originally Posted by gacook

Arizona voted the red light/speed cameras out. So glad.

We still have them here in AZ. They took the speed cameras off the highways, but there are still red light cams and those also act as speed cams.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by LeeH

We still have them here in AZ. They took the speed cameras off the highways, but there are still red light cams and those also act as speed cams.

There shouldn't be. Those were voted out about 2 years ago. ALL were removed in my city.

[Por_sha911]

We had speed cams in several towns around here. In one place in particular, people wrote in and said they would STOP going to the shops in that town because of the Red Light cams. Businesses complained that traffic had gone down and the town removed the cams. In my town, we wrote to our reps and said that the yellow lights were improperly shortened at intersections where RLCams were installed. They had to refund tickets paid and then had the cams removed.
Then there is this:

https://www.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/

http://www.andyholt4tn.com/holt-the-truth-about-tn-traffic-camera-tickets-what-to-do-if-you-get-one/

Most of Chattanooga's speed cameras will be gone by 2017 | Times Free Press

[Bill Douglas]

Refuse to pay the fine and make them take you to court. Get traffic light timings, video, photos etc. It's your duty as an honest citizen to put things right.