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think you hate jazz..try NEW AGE JAZZ.

sounds like i just dropped my drawer full of utensil onto a hard kitchen floor.

you'll love regular jazz alot after a dose of the new age crap.

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John Coltrane first.
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Dixieland jazz drives me nuts. Miles Davis does not.
Same here.

Jazz and be the best of music and the worst of it.

Perhaps the category is just too large and sweeping.
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It can be very bad and very good!

Check out some bossanova. A lot of it is brilliant. Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto are excellent.

Take 5, by Dave Brubek is the genre-defining tune and is very nice
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Did someone say Dixieland?

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I generally only like jazz fusion with guitar, bass and drums. And I can't listen to it when working out at the gym. But I'll go to shows like this every time I can. The musicianship is off the charts. A lot of these cats stay very busy on various tours and meet up for a few nights of shows with one or no rehearsals, just wing it. I've been to a lot of shows like this, even when all the musicians had made albums together, but had never been in the studio together, just did it all by email and file sharing, then got together for a one-off live show. Maybe you have to play an instrument to appreciate what it takes to do this, but it's heavenly when you go to a show like this.

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If you think of the different forms of jazz as being different forms of language, it may be easier to comprehend.

I have been trying to clarify a theory. It is very murky at this point.

I think jazz music is an expression of preverbal language. I think the various forms of jazz music are expressions of conceptualizations unbound by language. Because it is a form of speech without words, some people understand some of it, while others understand something else of it.

Music, particularly jazz music, is an auditory connection; a bridge between mathematics and emotion. The ridgiditry of musical theory somehow corrals our amorphous perceptions of emotion.

And that is as far as I've gotten.
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^^^^murky?? Yep..lol
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Kind of Blue... I play that most holidays or just about anytime I want to sit with some scotch and 'figure things out'. Love it.

So many good ones, but I guess some dont have an ear for good music

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I enjoy most styles of jazz. And the blues are pretty good too. Can't handle dixieland, just like I enjoy classical music but hate opera. Everyone is different. Enjoy.
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^^^^murky?? Yep..lol
It's not murky. It's very murky!

Galileo's father invented opera. The germ of Galileo the younger's fascination with the physical originated while observing his father measuring and organizing the frequencies of vibrating strings, eventually discovering the octave and standardizing western music.

Or so I've read.
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There are usually brilliant musicians that come up with new styles and forms of music. They everybody else shows up and steps all over it.

I'm pretty fond of the best in most music categories. Some of the good stuff is pretty hard to find.
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there is all kinds of jazz, i don't like it all, but i like a lot of it.

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I second Motions suggestion about Bossa Nova
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I'm not sure what category of Jazz this would fall under... the band calls it "death jazz". Whatever it is, it pleases my ears!

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bit to bland and repetitive for my taste
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I gave up on rock and roll in 1980. Hated new wave and disco. I switched to Jazz and blues. I love the old standards. The musicianship and creativity of the jazz and blues greats just blows me away. Now there are difference types of jazz, I love most but stuff like new age, Kenny G, I can live without.
I am also fond of blues and there are great blues clubs and artists who call Chicago home.

What I don't get is today's music - I just find it monotonous, repetitious and most artists couldn't survive without auto tune and costume changes.
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I've been playing percussion (not just drums) for 32 of my 36 years. Hear somebody like Gary Burton live, and it'll make sense. For the same reason I don't like top 40, jazz comes down to two things. Technical ability and feel.

In terms of drumming...I guarantee a jazz drummer can play rock. A rock drummer can't necessarily play jazz.

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I was probably only one of two kids in college in America listening to Pat Metheny in the late 80's, early 90's.

The other kid was my roommate who actually had the CD's, which were a novelty at the time.

Of all those songs, this one sits with me to this day. Probably not jazz per say, but, If I were launched into space for eternity (like Elon Musks's miata ), this is a song I would hit replay over until ad infinitum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z95kGK8qojc

Another Metheny song that sits with me is off of Offramp...
It starts off as some scary carnival freakshow song, which now sadly reminds me of the recent dental thread of the fat assistant breathing, yet at precisely 2:25 resolves itself into a calm/confident second part. At a time of turmoil in my life -I had just left for college, my parents got immediately divorced, my roomate as a drug dealer (the dorm room was not "legal" (meaning- safe) by any means), and I had no "safe snowflake place" to hide, that simple shift/change made all the difference. He played it at night every night. As a contrast to the ever so "evil" Frank Zappa that was played every day, and Frank's satanic green oven mit hanging over my dorm room bed, this was a nice way to end the day.

https://youtu.be/ULDI2_Gv77s

I listen to "take 5" driving home regularly and spend time trying to understand the timing 3/5? or is it 5/3? One of the best songs ever.

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What I don't get is today's music - I just find it monotonous, repetitious and most artists couldn't survive without auto tune and costume changes.
Even worse are the drum machines that any monkey can program.

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