Are you implying my kids are being bullied and I am ignoring it? LMAO.

If my kids were having a problem they would tell me, to date, no problems outside that girl, who I knew all about, from my older sons school days.

If your friends kids are having problems in a private school they picked the wrong one. Cool thing is, there are many, you choose which one works best. We check them out thoroughly before using one. If there is even a hint of anything we do not like we leave and take our business elsewhere.

That is why my wife is driving 25 miles one way past dozens of schools to the one we are using now. When our son was in 5th grade we felt the school he was in was not the right fit for him. So we set out to find a better fit for him. The school he left, the director is our friend, she understood and is still our friend today. It has nothing to do with bullying and everything to do with academics though.

We had our choices down to 2 schools both are 25 miles away from us, it is a PITA but worth it.

He is thriving in his new school we could not be happier. It is also smaller than the school he left which we like as well.


60-75 kids in a grade is too big of a school for me, I would not put my kids in a school that big. The Pines school that I linked is like that and I have heard stories about that school being a crap show. No way I would send either of my kids there.

My younger sons entire school k-12 may have 60-70 kids in it. His class has 10 kids in it. I know about half the kids, admittedly I am not as involved with this school as I was his other school mostly because it is so far away.

My older sons middle school had 15-20 kids in the class any given year. Not one problem. All the kids and families were awesome, did we all hang out? No, I have a life and my kids have lives outside school they were never the type to want to be the most popular, they prefer to keep to themselves. Both my kids are the type to have 1 or 2 close friends and that is it. They are not collectors of many friends.

Probably a big part of why neither give a crap about social media.

I'm not sure how you read my post and took it as me implying YOUR kids were being bullied.

I agree and the Parkland was preventable if any of the LEO agencies had followed up on any of the reports. We should also make sure the schools with SRO's aren't using people from some pansy department like Sheriff Israel where they pee their panties when the SHTF.

Until we understand the mental issues we won't ever get back to the days when kids took guns to school for the shooting team or clays. Or maybe we should let all the normal kids take theirs to school.

I'm glad it's working out for you Jim. Honestly I'm not aware of any private school in Wichita that is that small, regardless of cost.

Honestly one of the biggest concerns that I have with my kids going to Catholic school is that they are already too sheltered from the world. We can try to shelter our kids as much as possible, but eventually the world finds them. And it can be a big, mean, scary place, particularly when you aren't prepared for it. It's one reason all of my kids participate in city league type sports, where they are exposed to all types. I'll never forget my oldest son telling me after his first tackle football game against a rough team, "dad they told me to eff-off when I tackled them". I think he was 9, good learning experience.

HS football is an amazing look inside the various natures of man-kind, how they are shaped and influenced, especially by coaches.

I never yapped in any organized sport. In football, I played both ways all four years in HS so it was easy to be quiet and wait for an opportunity to let the pads do the chatting.

The difference with bullying today is, as we all know, social media. Any school can police the school yard and classroom, the bus if so inclined.

The real bullying happens later over social media. I can't even imagine what an intrusion an iPhone would have been in my teenage years, not as a bully or being bullied (never happened), just the lack of privacy.

The kids get into social media at a very young age as well. It isn't uncommon for middle schoolers to have accounts.

I just want my kids to get the best education possible. Public schools here are incapable of that. Especially when a kid like mine has a learning disorder.

As mentioned he was tested and has a couple of issues, what saves his ass is that they tested his IQ to be in the 140 range. Every teacher that works with him remarks how intelligent he is. No public school teacher would, I know from my older son when he was in there, they called him stupid. He tested in the 130 range. He also has dyslexia.

I have my kid (and at one time kids) where they are for a reason and it was not to protect them from mean people, it was to get them the education they deserved, one public schools would not give them.

A bonus for us is that the schools we choose also provide a fantastic atmosphere for them to thrive in.


As we see in society today, being in a toxic environment of bullying leads to really bad things.

I am sure making more gun laws will fix this.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/father-of-accused-texas-shooter-believes-bullying-was-behind-rampage-1526920563

We have a similar issue with our daughter. The school was no longer interested in helping her when she stopped playing sports. She is very smart but has "organizational issues". She would probably be a great doctor or mad scientist because of it. :)

Both our kids were taken out of the local public school so they could get an education.

The 2nd amendment is a paper tiger, nothing more. Who the **** here is seriously going to overthrow our government which, let's be honest, works for K Street much more than it does for any of us, unless we have some lobbyists here, then you are good.

Secondly, guns are maybe tertiary at best. Computer programmers are of primary importance in a revolution than any gun will be.

Third, Capitalism, the thing Americans do best, will squash any kind of revolution you and your AR15 could ever dream of. I'm really really sure that the Powers That Be, whatever they are, are seriously enthused about the largest economy in the world tumbling down to Rawanda's scale. Yeah. Same reason why North Korea is a paper tiger. Does anyone seriously not think that China doesn't have, say 5 to 1500 spies and operatives in NK that will prevent Kim from doing anything to their biggest customer, the good old USA? Of course not, China will protect us from any kind of nuclear attack whether we like it or not. Or maybe they are really exciting about us not buying from them any more. Yeah.

Jesus Christ, the U.S. is the only country in the god damn ****ing world that even has school shootings and our best and brightest are just waiting, waiting for the opportunity to overthrow our oppressive government because that's what the Founder's envisioned. ****ing *******s.

I agree with you 100% Shaun.

Also, in my world all governments are solidified beneficent and immovable masses of populism run by computers that make everybody rich, especially ours.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to chase that mongoose running down the keyboard for 19251 telephone pole smell.

and there is the PARF worthy rant.

That is already the law in Texas. Class C Misdemeanor to be negligent in letting your firearms be taken/used by someone under 17 or not allowed to own/posses firearms.

It upgrades to Class A if the firearm is used in a crime.

As a 'computer programmer', I could not help but laugh. You have watched a bit too much Jason Bourne.

Find out why a kid wishes to do harm to other kids and you have the root of the issue.
That's where the conversation should be.
So many idiots can't see this for what it is....and a whole bunch of other idiots are so blinded by their politics they can't see chit anyway.

LOL! Nothing of the sort, you just have a one dimensional view, but that’s ok.

Baz, are you saying that kids in other countries are free of harmful thoughts? Other countries don’t have school shootings so their kids are more mentally stable than ours? Could be.

Hey Shaun, your bias is showing. Sorry but I prefer to maintain the ability to defend myself and my family as opposed to deferring to the government. Who btw obviously cannot come up with a practical plan to protect our students in schools. Instead of throwing out an emotional knee jerk reaction how about proposing something pragmatic that is also consistent with the foundation of our country? Otherwise this is just PARF monkey poo throwing.

I think we have a different culture in our country than in other countries and that is what makes our kids different.

So to your first question.....not saying kids in other countries are free of harmful thoughts....but kids in our country are more apt to act harmful because of our unique culture.

We have many freedoms here - which overall is a good thing. But at some point in getting to where we are (as a country) - parenting and setting good examples for kids has dwindled.

I don't have the stats at my fingertips -- but how have we done in rankings with our education over the past decade? Are we going higher or lower - than other countries? Is that related to anything germain to our conversation?

I for one have a feeling kids in other countries get a pretty different narrative than kids in the USA.

Kids here are taught a pretty brutal form of egocentricity on every level from the media, each other, their computers and their phones, and occasionally their parents. Being completely absorbed in the majestry of you is the new American success. And it's driving people crazy, starting with emotionally vulnerable children.

On the news today, it was suggested that metal detectors for all Texas schools would cost around $44M. Seems cheap at twice the price.

Reality is that by the time we are done with the installation plus x-ray, it will be $250M. Still a good start.

Of course, this will not stop someone from doing something outside of the school, or to a school bus, or whatever the next crazy stupid thing is....