Time to kick Kimi to the curb

[sammyg2]

Ferrari needs to tell Kimi to take a hike and replace him with de La Rosa or Bianchi during the summer break. Preferably De La Rosa.

Kimi really sux this year, most likely because he's being compared to Alonso which would make almost any driver look worse.
but Kimi is acting like he's already given up.
That is why he needs to go on his merry way.

[Amail]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Ferrari needs to tell Kimi to take a hike and replace him with de La Rosa or Bianchi during the summer break. Preferably De La Rosa.

Kimi really sux this year, most likely because he's being compared to Alonso which would make almost any driver look worse.
but Kimi is acting like he's already given up.
That is why he needs to go on his merry way.

Agree. Looks just like his last stint at Ferrari - doesn't give a crap.

[yellowperil]

He's been mailing it in all year. Last year he was hot, this year not at all.

[VincentVega]

I really like Kimi but I think you are right. Not sure why but he doesnt seem to be interested. I hope I'm wrong.

[silverc4s]

Agreed. Sad to watch, as I was a fan - initially happy to see him join the team.

[sammyg2]

Me too, I was a fan and expected great things out of the competion between mumbles and alonso.

Didn't happen tho. Alonso repeatedly has seemed to out-perform the car, whyile Kimi has had a slew of unfortunate accents, poor qualifying, it's like massa 2.0

kimi did pretty good last year in the lotus. Massa sucked for most of last year but is doing pretty good this year in the williams.

I draw the following conclusions:
ther ferrari F1 car is way worse than people realize, and alonso is allot better than people give him credit for.

[Ferraripete]

"I draw the following conclusions:
ther ferrari F1 car is way worse than people realize, and alonso is allot better than people give him credit for."

I agree with this.

[Jeff Higgins]

Alonso is the best driver on the grid by a considerably margin. Sticking with Ferrari has derailed his career. Kimi has always been fast in a good car, but has no idea how to drive a car beyond its inherent limits. Alonso excells at that. Ferrari deserves to keep Kimi, but certainly not Alonso. Alonso needs to kick Ferrari to the curb.

[sammyg2]

I got a feeling that in a few months there will be lots of people updating their resumes to say that they USED to work for Ferrari's F1 team.

Ferrari just has to kiss Ross Brawn's butt enough to get him back and give him complete control and their troubles would all be over.

[MrAlien]

the Ferrari is not a Q3 car...though Alonso often makes it one. the ferrari is a junk car and kimi knows it, lost motivation, and is probably just happy to be getting a pay check.
I think that should have ben hulkenburgs ride, at least he is hungry..

[Ferraripete]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

I got a feeling that in a few months there will be lots of people updating their resumes to say that they USED to work for Ferrari's F1 team.

Ferrari just has to kiss Ross Brawn's butt enough to get him back and give him complete control and their troubles would all be over.

this would be a good start getting ross on board. next we would need to have luca keep his nose out of the f-1 team's business and instead focus on building ugly cars and selling lots of crap merchandise w/ a horsey logo on it.

I apologize for getting started on my luca rant...

[TheMentat]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Alonso is the best driver on the grid by a considerably margin. Sticking with Ferrari has derailed his career. Kimi has always been fast in a good car, but has no idea how to drive a car beyond its inherent limits. Alonso excells at that. Ferrari deserves to keep Kimi, but certainly not Alonso. Alonso needs to kick Ferrari to the curb.

This...

[TheMentat]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

I got a feeling that in a few months there will be lots of people updating their resumes to say that they USED to work for Ferrari's F1 team.

Ferrari just has to kiss Ross Brawn's butt enough to get him back and give him complete control and their troubles would all be over.

No doubt...

I have a hard time understanding why Mattiacci got the job... seems like some sort of patronage appointment!

[Jeff Higgins]

Ross Braun isn't any more likely to go back to Ferrari than Michael is at this point.

This is the pattern at Ferrari. We can expect a decade of utter mediocrity before they rise again from the ashes.

Oh well, at least Williams are coming back. That could be a sweet gig for Alonso next year.

[cairns]

Ferrari just has to kiss Ross Brawn's butt enough to get him back and give him complete control and their troubles would all be over.

That would mean Luca needs to get off the pitwall, STFU and go back to running the company instead of micromanaging the team and pulling publicity stunts. Leaving a race before it ends, even with his team losing, would have been anathema to El Commendatore. I can't imagine how demoralizing that was for the team.

And while I'm disappointed in Kimi too I wouldn't count him out just yet. Remember when everyone said Hamilton's career was over because he decided to go to Mercedes?

Ross Braun isn't any more likely to go back to Ferrari than Michael is at this point.

I agree at this point but they actually asked him back this Spring (late Winter actually) and Ross was going to go but they didn't want to fire Stefano Domenicalli and give Ross the control he wanted so they went their separate ways. Additionally Ross's wife didn't want to go back to living in Italy.

I apologize for getting started on my luca rant...

Me too.

[jyl]

Is the thought that Alonso goes to Williams and kicks out Massa?

Ross Braun isn't any more likely to go back to Ferrari than Michael is at this point.



This is the pattern at Ferrari. We can expect a decade of utter mediocrity before they rise again from the ashes.



Oh well, at least Williams are coming back. That could be a sweet gig for Alonso next year.

[Typ616]

Agreed. I'd love to see Bianchi given a chance there...

Can't explain the Kimster. He's talented, showed it before and again at Lotus, but he seems to like a specific kind of car and not be able to drive around problems like Alonso can. And yeah, Alonso in a good car would probably clean up... It's all car car car, look at how Vettel was made to be the second coming over the past 4 years and now Ricciardo is cleaning his clock... No offense to Ricciardo but he wasn't *that* much faster than Vergne, etc... another example of not being able to drive around the problem, I guess... It's kinda sad to see Alonso wasting his talent in the red dump truck, but Mercedes is full, Red Bull looks set, McLaren looks Williams has for the past 10 years. Ooh, Williams ? Replacing Massa ? ;-)

[Jeff Higgins]

I would hate to see Massa lose his ride. One of the nicest, most genuine guys in all of F1 and he just can't seem to catch a break. Very talented driver, but perhaps past his prime. Looking at it purely pragmatically, seeing Alonso bump him from Williams might just prove to be the equivalent of Hamilton to Mercedes. Williams are definitely on an uptick - Alonso might be just what they need to close the deal.

[mph911]

Alonso does drive the wheels off that thing every race where as Kimi doesn't seem to have the fight.
Replacing Kimi with De La Rosa?? I could think of a few better candidates than him. Isn't he in his 40's now? Ferrari need to break tradition and get some young guys in.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by mph911

Alonso does drive the wheels off that thing every race where as Kimi doesn't seem to have the fight.
Replacing Kimi with De La Rosa?? I could think of a few better candidates than him. Isn't he in his 40's now? Ferrari need to break tradition and get some young guys in.

I wuz just throwing out names that ferrari already have in the stable.
De La Rosa and Bianchi are already on the payroll and know the car.
I'd be pretty easy to slip one of them in.

Iffn I were them (and they're glad I'm not) I'd have try-outs at the next test or practice session.
Super-softs, light load of fuel, everyone gets three laps to see what they can do. Winner gets to drive on Sunday.