With such detailed workmanship on the ground-up restoration, going to be a great car! I was surprised at all the rust you had to cut out from a "galvanized" body,

Do ya' remember how to put it back together?;)

Ha ha... well, the PO took it apart so do the math on that one. Thankfully he labeled things well?
As for the rust, the car started life in Europe until the late eighties when it was brought into the US. I understand euro cars often have corrosion issues. The big attraction for me was price. The fact that it was a no-sunroof coupe and lacked all the power goodies and usual creature comforts didn't hurt either.

Mikey83835, are you a PCA member? My wife and I wandered into the Porsche dealer in Liberty Lake awhile back just for fun and there was a PCA event going on. Were you there? Everyone seemed fairly nice and laid back.

Thanks to those that replied. I plan to continue this post as things progress even though the body and pain/paint are finished. So far the front half of the car has been blocked w/1500. More to come...

Yeah, I'm a recent member but have never been to the Sat AM coffee meetings at the dealership, kinda' early for me, I'm usually up pretty late,

Website here, check out the "gallery", especially the bbq's at Chee Chee's lakefront place every year in late July, great social event;

PCA - Inland Northwest Region > Home

Yes, nice, looks like a wide range of cars. I'm holding off on my application til' I can drive this one. I'm afraid someone would offer me a ride in one and that will make me want it done quicker. My marriage won't allow it!... Maybe if I get HER a ride in one???

I got a couple emails with props on the way the duck tail turned out. Thanks much. I just wanted to note, the idea came from the 2010 Sport Classic 911 as did the color.

If the weather stays nice be glad to give either or both of you a ride if it will provide a morale boost for your project, recently put on a factory muffler modified into a Liestritz-style sport muffler, glorious sounds! Like the RSRs of the 70's used, sounds like a cross between a wood chipper and someone shredding cardboard:D:D.

That sound might be more of a "guy thing" tho', haha

Mine is the maroon-ish red Targa under the shade tree;

Chee Chees BBQ 2009

Derek, what is the filter media you used on the fans and where did you buy it? How well did it work for you? I have built a paint booth in my shop and need to cut in the inlets for fresh air supply and install some filters. Thanks

Mikey, I would love to take you up on your offer but I have one of those (on call) type jobs. For example; I'm pretty sure I'll have tomorrow off but after that, who knows. So if tomorrow works, lemme know. :)

Mebesfield, I used some cut to fit furnace filter media from Lowe's. Keep in mind I did this in my garage so it was intended to keep the big bugs out and the paint from going all over the neighbors cars. It worked as intended but the exhaust filters needed to be cleaned after each use. All of the paint collected was dry for the most part and cleaned up easily. The cost was around $7 per sheet. Each sheet was about 28"x34". I ended up with a fair amount of trash in my paint despite my efforts but in your case, it should work well.

I am coming into town (Hayden) tomorrow to the grocery, the Super 1 in Hayden, e-mail or PM me your address, if you are not too far I can perhaps stop by, I would like to see your car anyway. (Have a slight wheel balance problem and a shimmy right at 65-70mph so don't like to go too far on the freeway) Or perhaps meet by the state line, maybe at Curley's about 2PM if you are a long way?

Love one man shows. Great job love the thread. Glad to hear some of my postings have helped. Oh! love the strips...so suttle but make such a huge statement.

Thanks for the props Freddie.

After blocking the body and eliminating the ridge created by the stripes, I decided to do the same on the hood and duck tail. The end result will be a nice flat surface. I also have mixed up a couple drops of clear to fill in the small dimples. I'm VERY tired of wet sanding this thing but I think it will pay off in the end. I decided to go one step further and block it with 2000 grit. The clear is fairly hard now so the 2K grit should make compounding a bit easier.

Going for a beer now, cheers!

A thread without pictures in not a thread.

You're absolutely right, here you go...
Enjoy! :D

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Incredible project there.
You deserve that beer....and many more!

Can't wait to see what this baby looks like when you start putting it all back together.
Take your time (as you've been) doing.
The end result will be nothing short of fantastic.

beautiful. suscribed

Update!

So far I've got the doors, tail and hood on the car. I also made a dolly (no more Rotisserie!) for the body so it can be moved around easily.

I'm having some paint issues in case you missed it. Here is the thread... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodywork-discussion-forum/573996-clear-coat-woes.html
Unfortunately, it looks like I'll be repainting the hood, tail and a door. :confused:
I wish I could tell you what went wrong but I'm stumped. I've got the bumpers to paint still so not the end of the world I suppose.

On the bright side, I've got some wiring installed and am currently working on the tunnel cables, harness, lines, etc.

I would like to continue updating my progress. Should I start a new thread in the tech forum or leave it all here?

Here are some pics of the final product. Enjoy!

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Great stuff.

Sorry to read about your paint problems.

I vote you leave it here until complete and have an 'unveiling' thread on the main board with reference to the work here. At least that's what I'll be doing with mine :)

Looks great. Sorry to hear about the paint problems. That is the only reason I am hesitating shooting my own paint. I would hate to go thru all the work and have to do it again. Can you give me some details on your cart? I think I will need one soon depending upon how I decide to finish out the car.

Yeah, a real bummer. I've sanded the hood down w/1000 this morning and am taking it to a place that has IR/UV heat lamps and see if it helps any. As soon as I started sanding, I could smell the solvents!

I say go for it. Spray it yourself. I havn't done an enormous amount of paint work but what I have done always turned out great. Live and learn. Even though I'll likely respray these panels, it should be quick since the prep is already done. Having to redo those stripes is the only real downer for me.

As for the cart, I just used parts from the rotisserie to make it... cut and weld. I got the wheels from harbor freight for about $25. I did go through some cutoff wheels.
On top of the uprights, I welded some studs (old bolts) sticking up so they would fit into the bolt holes for the skid pan in the front and the body alignment holes in the floor pan in the rear. I have secured the ones that go through the pan and the front just sets on the pins/studs that stick up.
Let me know if you need some photos or something.

Some pics of the underside where you have it pined bolted would help. Not sure I follow exactly what you did. I see you made your own paint booth and your car turned out incredible. I have a paint booth I have been building in my shop so maybe I will go for it. What did your paint materials cost? The finish you achieved is awesome. You should be very proud.

Total cost of materials was around 2K. $300 of that was for a new paint gun (glad I did) and $250-$300 for sand paper, sanding blocks, tape, paper, buffing, polishing compounds and disks etc. etc. So just paint, primers and clear... about $1500.

I used, and this is approximate:
3 gal. epoxy primer
2 gal. 2K primer
2 gal. color
3.5 gal. clear

That all got me:

2 full coats of epoxy primer on all parts inside and out plus a sealer coat where filler was used
4 wet coats of 2K primer on outer surfaces and 2 wet coats on inner areas. Sprayed 2 coats at a time with sanding in between.
2 wet coats of color on all parts (I'm including the bumpers which I've yet to paint)
4 coats of clear (3 should be fine, I just did 4 on the car body to eliminate some sanding to make the stripes seem buried/flat).

Yes, I am very happy with the results. It really looks too cool. I can tell yours is a true labor of love. I think you'll do fine if you've got the time.

Here are some shots of the cart... it keeps the car about 16 inches off the ground.

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Oh crudola... here are the rest.

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I like this angle.

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Wow, that is a lot of work. The sanding part. I have no problem welding and grinding, but that sanding is a lot of work. I have a bad back.

How did you get your car off the rotisserie?
Does the body bolt to the cart or just sit on it?

If you have the rotisserie it will help with the back.

I just set it on 4 jack stands with a 4x4 atop each pair then from there, I lowered it to the cart with a floor jack.
The body bolts to the cart in the rear. I the second to last photo you can see the bolt and nut in the corner of the tub. The front just rests on it with the pins sticking up through the skid plate mounting points.
I wanted it out of the way as much as possible so I can work on the suspension.

You are truly talented and patient, and your results reflect it...very impressive!

Hey thanks man, I really appreciate that. That's great encouragement.

This forum helps me stay motivated in the face of roadblocks.

Speaking of roadblocks... I ran into another one yesterday. I decided to dust off the new bumpers and see how they fit. Yea right! At first I thought the front one was meant for a turbo, it was so wide. I even called the mfg. to see what the deal is. I was told that when the original bumpers are removed, the front fenders "relax a bit"??? Ok, maybe a little but this is friggin' ridiculous. Check this out!


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Fender "relaxing"

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other fender "relaxing"

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I just want to say, the mfg. did offer to accommodate me "whatever I need" he said. I bought it 6 months ago. Thats pretty good if you ask me.

The rear bumper is much closer but I think it will need some work too.

What? You mean you're gonna keep that?... Dude!

Yup! I did some searching here and found others that had to do what has become painfully obvious, if I want this bumper that is. I gotta cut it half and weld it back together. Simple! As far as I know, there are no other mfg's that make this bumper for narrow body cars... too late now anyway.

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Taddahhh!

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As you can see, the fit is MUCH better and I can even use the mounting brackets provided with the bumper. The opposite side is even a bit better. Just eyeballing it, I will need to trim a two inch section out of this bumper. The result will be a smaller opening for the cooler but at the same time, I think it will go with the narrow body a bit better? There is still plenty of room for the cooler itself too. As this progresses, I'll take some closeups of how much room to spare there is re: the oil cooler scoop and bracket thing I made. It couldn't have been ANY closer.

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My plan is to post the entire process for making this work. Any one that has done this type of work knows just how easy it is. Messy, maybe but not at all difficult. Fitting the halves is the hard part and even if you cut too much, it's not a big deal. If you can make a panel flat, you're already a pro.

Its possible that the bumper itself "relaxed" while sitting in storage. A 9" version of the bumper has a pronounced curvature on each end, so you did not receive a wide body style.
We had a client bring us 993 GT2 bodywork years ago, and when he was finally ready to get it installed, the stored parts had moved around yielding a kit that no longer fit.

This is why parts need to be stored for as short a period of time as possible. Get them on the car, fitted and out in the sun to let them set.

When we sell fiberglass, you get it shortly after its taken from the mold, OR its been properly supported so movement is minimized

Your fix is a good one- you will need to put material on the splice for the interior and exterior of the part. Otherwise a line will appear some months down the road

Thanks for the pics. I have to say that color is one of my favorites. Keep up the great work.

Yes, the plan is to get it clamped in place and put some glass in behind, remove, finish glassing the back. Once that is set, grind the front down to the rear patch along the seam + 4 or 5 inches wide, glass, sand, shape etc. Should work well.

When I first saw your post, I thought, he's gonna tell me "we got one that fits great!" Glad to hear, I'm on the right track.

After working with the ducktail (Getty Design) that required practically no work. My expectations were a bit higher.

Bumper Progress:

Easy peasy!

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Cut TWO INCHES out of the middle of that thing... WTF??? No biggie though. I think it looks way better with the 2 inch narrower oil cooler opening. Without the Turbo flares, I think it looks more appropriate this way.

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Look how close the cooler mounting bracket is to the FG. I think I got away with one that time.

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Awesome. Makes me anxious for spring so I can get to work on my front end again.SmileWavy

If this thread isn't an inspiration, I don't know what is !!! Great Work .

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What a great thread. I stumbled on it searching for a rotisserie and found such a great source of information. I'm currently practicing media blast restoration on my targa top and then later if things with a motor on my '78 targa check out, I may go for a similar type complete restoration.

Looking at your list of paint materials, I did not see an undercoat. What did you use for it?

BTW, I think I'll be fabricating my own car dolly also. Where do you source these square metal bars for your dolly/rotisserie?

Sorry for the late reply (did you PM me?)

As for undercoat, I used 4 quarts of the Wurth gray under coat applied using a shutes type gun from Eastwood. I bought a kit from them that included some undercoat which I didn't use and some cavity wax stuff. The gun came with some wands and a flex hose. It worked great for the under coat. My only recommendation on the Wurth stuff is to thin it a bit with some water. It's fairly thick stuff. If you do this, it doesn't take much so start with a little water and add more if need be.

The Rotisserie came with the car but we have a metal materials place here that sells shorts (scraps) or whatever you need. There are no rules here, just what works. Anyway, after I was done with the home built Rotisserie, I cut the bars up and fabbed up the dolly to meet my needs.

I'm glad my thread has been helpful to some. This forum has been an invaluable resource for me to, so glad to help.

truly inspirational thanks

from the other side of the world

Nothing like taking a saw and chopping up your brand new parts! If the bumper was stored with weight on it so the edges were spread out I could see that happening. Nice job on the fix.

Updated pics?SmileWavy

I have nothing to add at the moment... It's been a long, cold winter here so I've been spending time indoors. I bought some engine parts and had the black trim (window frames, trim etc.) de-anodized and am ready to start polishing. Basically skiping around to other small projects. Soon though I plan to finish the front and rear bumpers and get them ready for paint. Please be patient, updates are coming soon.

Very inspiring, best of luck going forward.