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78SCRSMAN 07-23-2012 05:59 AM

I wanted them to be serviceable as far as lubrication so I installed some grease fittings.
I have this tube of goopy, sticky stuff that is intended for these types of bushings so my plan is to load a grease gun with whats in the tub. Should be fun!

Here's how it turned out:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343051804.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343051819.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343051833.jpg


I also cut a circular groove to help move the goopy stuff.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343051849.jpg

78SCRSMAN 07-23-2012 06:09 AM

I made a few other mods to make things easier to service...


I notched the spring plates where the fitting will be so it's easier to access the inboard grease fitting.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343052159.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343052188.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343052212.jpg


The result of all this is a silky smooth suspension that has very little resistance. I checked, double checked and checked again before I indexed the bars. I must have repeated the disassemble/assemble process 10 times on each corner before I was happy. If it all works out, I figure I saved myself some decent $ to spend elswhere.
:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343052528.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343052560.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1343052584.jpg

proffighter 07-23-2012 11:41 PM

Very nice work. Love the way you do this !!! Keep on posting

78SCRSMAN 08-16-2012 12:49 PM

I'm now working on the rear suspension and brakes. I sent my rear shocks off to Bilstein to be re-valved, rebuilt and shortened 3/4". They say 6 weeks turnaround :(
No biggie though, I'll be at this awhile. :rolleyes:


Here are the rear calipers ready for re-assembly. Also, I just ordered some "P O R S C H E" logo stencils for them. Before painting, I sanded the surface where the logo will be applied so it's nice and flat.

EDIT: Not sure how the photo got flipped so just do a handstand while viewing. :D
EDIT: Well now it looks normal??? Must have been the photo fairy.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1345150162.jpg

Kemo 08-30-2012 01:37 PM

ive never seen fiberglass bumpers that fit so well. great job and thank you so much for showing us how you did it. I am really looking forward to the final product

wachuko 09-06-2012 06:39 AM

Amazing project!! Thank you for sharing. Subscribed!!

78SCRSMAN 09-06-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemo (Post 6945497)
ive never seen fiberglass bumpers that fit so well. great job and thank you so much for showing us how you did it. I am really looking forward to the final product

Thanks very much. I can't begin to tell you how unhappy I was when I found out how poorly they fit initially. All I can say is "don't buy from GT Racing"! The savings is simply not worth the hassle.

Thanks for the kudos wachuko, I keep wondering if anyone is still following this... LOL

I've had to put this on the back burner on low for awhile. The wife has me doing some outdoor projects and I just picked up a "new to me" daily driver in the shape of a 2004 Passat. Although it looks and drives wonderful (only 79K on the clock!) I am in the process of making it mine. So far it's received tinted windows, new wheels and tires, 1/8" line in jack. I have the parts on hand to do the all important timing belt and water pump. After that's done I'll give it the full detail it deserves along with a trip to the paint-less dent removal dude as it has a couple tiny little dings.

OK so back to the show...
I received an email from "wolfyboy" who was asking about the stripes so I snapped a couple shots for his and your perusal. Enjoy!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1346977831.jpg


This is how the bumper turned out with the weatherstrip seal mounted. I'll likely need to remove it again when the motor goes in but I couldn't resist... I lika the way it turned out!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1346977857.jpg

douglas bray 09-06-2012 06:06 PM

You are God, aren't you?

wachuko 09-06-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 6960270)
Thanks very much. I can't begin to tell you how unhappy I was when I found out how poorly they fit initially. All I can say is "don't buy from GT Racing"! The savings is simply not worth the hassle.

Thanks for the kudos wachuko, I keep wondering if anyone is still following this... LOL

...

You must be joking... this is an awesome thread.

I do feel your pain... The RSR project is being finished by someone that really knows his stuff... the amount of work that he has put on making the GT Racing parts work/fit is just overwhelming... he has had to cut, add, reinforce, cut pieces from the stock parts to graft into the fb parts to make them fit correctly... The issue is that it looks like most of the vendors require this type of extra work to fit these fb parts... anyway, at the end of the day the car will look great. Can't wait to be able to see it completely painted and to drive it around.

Back to your car. To be able to see what you started with and the current condition just encourages us to work on finishing our cars.

I just got another SC, a project someone else decided to sell due to personal reasons. He had many parts, including RS bumpers, RS carpet, etc. Looking for ideas, I came to your thread... oh boy!! Now I can't wait to get the car to our body shop expert (along with your photos) to get it done!! Once the body and paint are finished (painting the car Jade Green Metallic - #Reutter Nr. 536 / Porsche Nr. 5405 ) I will take it home and do the rest.

This is the color I am going with:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/thecolor.jpg

And this is the recent car I bought - 1981 911 SC

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/81sc2.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/81sc3.jpg

And a few boxes with parts (so glad I took a friend's Tundra! )

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts1_copy2.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts2_copy1.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts3_copy1.jpg

Front and Rear RS styled fiberglass bumpers

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts4_copy1.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts7.jpg

4 Rota Fuchs styled 17" wheels (2-17" x 7.5 Front and 2-17" x 9 back ) - I need help figuring out what tires to order for these rim... not modifying the fenders/qtr panels...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts5.jpg

New gas tank

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/parts6.jpg

Boxes with original parts, spare parts, new parts... RS Door Panels, RS Carpet, etc.

Two sport seats

4 new tires for the 16" wheels... not mounted, need to remove the stock wheels and get those mounted.

I know I am missing a few parts...

I will start my thread once the car is at the shop. You Sir, keep posting away!!

78SCRSMAN 09-06-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douglas bray (Post 6960432)
You are God, aren't you?

Ha! Hardly, however my daughter says I'm "The Man" when I ask her, "What am I" but I've had to teach her that since she could talk. :D
Getting the wife to say such things usually costs way too much so I don't bother.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 6960577)
You must be joking... this is an awesome thread.

I will start my thread once the car is at the shop. You Sir, keep posting away!!

I read thru your thread... so the green is for a different car?
EDIT: OK, I see you have 2 cars... lucky Bastad!

Unlike me, that color is truly divine. I see too many folks do a bare metal repaint only to spray on the original factory color. To each his own but why not taste the rainbow if you're going thru all that trouble?

One of the really nice things about fiberglass is it's so easy to work with. The tail on mine is from Ghetty or M.A. Shaw (I forget which) and needed only sanding and some air bubbles filled. I would have sent the other stuff back but shipping was cost prohibitive. Overall, I'm very happy with the way things turned out BUT if there ever is a next time I'll spend my $ elsewhere.

wachuko 09-06-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 6960615)
Ha! Hardly, however my daughter says I'm "The Man" when I ask her, "What am I" but I've had to teach her that since she could talk. :D
Getting the wife to say such things usually costs way too much so I don't bother.



I read thru your thread... so the green is for a different car?

Unlike me, that color is truly divine. I see too many folks do a bare metal repaint only to spray on the original factory color. To each his own but why not taste the rainbow if you're going thru all that trouble?

Correct.

Green for the '81 that I just got. It will become an RS 3.0 Narrow Body...

Blue for the '83 that will become an RSR 3.0...

TRE Cup 09-09-2012 08:15 PM

Hi
Did you reinforce the back side of those rear sway bar mounts on the chassis? The standard set up will break with the use of those big bars. Fabricate up some flat plate steel to fit the bracket and weld it to the chassis
paint finish with those stripes look really nice

wachuko 09-09-2012 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 6279177)
Quick update: I've got the front bumper finished now (How do you like my splitter?) and the rear is next for lighting and license plate bracket. I also have some suspension bits installed and am working on the interior vinyl and dash. The chassis is gaining weight now and is getting harder and harder to move around. It won't be long til it will need to be on the ground.

Cheers


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317180417.jpg

In the remote chance that you remember or have it written down somewhere... what part number for that rubber trim between bumper and fender?

By any chance, is it part number 964 505 143 01 01C ??

78SCRSMAN 09-10-2012 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRE Cup (Post 6965978)
Hi
Did you reinforce the back side of those rear sway bar mounts on the chassis? The standard set up will break with the use of those big bars. Fabricate up some flat plate steel to fit the bracket and weld it to the chassis
paint finish with those stripes look really nice


Actually this was the only thing I felt the PO did correctly. He made a piece that looked kind of like a butterfly and was welded in place on the backside of each mount.

I do have a concern with my own little design. I welded two different bolts (one standard thread and one metric thread) that thread into the swaybar mount on the banana arms. These bolts were welded back to back and I fear they may break at some point. Any thoughts? I can take some close ups if it helps but there are a couple shots that might give an idea of what I'm talking about here. (photos 4&5 on post 202)

78SCRSMAN 09-10-2012 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 6965981)
In the remote chance that you remember or have it written down somewhere... what part number for that rubber trim between bumper and fender?

By any chance, is it part number 964 505 143 01 01C ??

I used the OE 964 smile... Got it here on pelican. I believe you have the correct number there. It looks real nice too I might add.

wachuko 09-10-2012 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 6966372)
I used the OE 964 smile... Got it here on pelican. I believe you have the correct number there. It looks real nice too I might add.

That is great, thank you! I have had that gasket/smile in a box for some 5 years now. A few new parts that I got from a friend and were just sitting in the garage. It will be put to good use now. SmileWavy

TRE Cup 09-10-2012 08:01 AM

The head to head bolt weld is a gamble in its application. You are going to introduce forces in shear, instead of under tension/ compression. Its a risk
I would like to see you install the spring plate mount set ups that some of the bar manufacturers offer. Sure, still in shear, but the hardware is one piece with no embritelment of the metal on either side of the weld

78SCRSMAN 09-11-2012 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRE Cup (Post 6966631)
The head to head bolt weld is a gamble in its application. You are going to introduce forces in shear, instead of under tension/ compression. Its a risk
I would like to see you install the spring plate mount set ups that some of the bar manufacturers offer. Sure, still in shear, but the hardware is one piece with no embritelment of the metal on either side of the weld

Yeah ok, you're most likely right. I figured I'd give it try and fix it later when it breaks but better to be safe and also avoid one of those (I told you so) moments.

I found the Weltmeister eccentric mounts on the Automotion site. I'll order those. I have no idea why they didn't come with the car... maybe the PO purchased the bars after he bought the car and those weren't included???

Mikey83835 09-11-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 6960270)

Thanks for the kudos wachuko, I keep wondering if anyone is still following this... LOL

Oh yeah, I'm still subscribed to the thread, in saving money mode for a 3.6 transplant:eek: in the gray lightweight widebody Targa,

78SCRSMAN 09-12-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey83835 (Post 6969533)
Oh yeah, I'm still subscribed to the thread, in saving money mode for a 3.6 transplant:eek: in the gray lightweight widebody Targa,

That's gonna be a screamer Mike. :p
Any sort of time frame on this so I can get a ride? :D

Mikey83835 09-13-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 6970696)
That's gonna be a screamer Mike. :p
Any sort of time frame on this so I can get a ride? :D

Sadly, buying the car put a huge dent in the savings:(, and don't even have the 3.6 motor yet, so probably a couple of years:rolleyes:

wolfyboy 09-29-2012 01:41 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1348954046.jpg


Derek, Here is a photo of my new striped hood, thanks for your pictures. The color is Porsche grauschwarz 7A1 grey black, non metallic with a non metallic grey my painter found that looked appropriate.

wachuko 09-29-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfyboy (Post 7004766)
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...1348954046.jpg


Derek, Here is a photo of my new striped hood, thanks for your pictures. The color is Porsche grauschwarz 7A1 grey black, non metallic with a non metallic grey my painter found that looked appropriate.

That looks great!!

78SCRSMAN 09-30-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfyboy (Post 7004766)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1348954046.jpg


Derek, Here is a photo of my new striped hood, thanks for your pictures. The color is Porsche grauschwarz 7A1 grey black, non metallic with a non metallic grey my painter found that looked appropriate.

That looks great! I really wish I had gone the long hood route with mine but it was a little out of my budget range... Next time :D
Where can we see photos of the rest of your car?

78SCRSMAN 10-04-2012 06:59 PM

I was thinking of throwing this out on the open forum but thought I'd post it here instead since it relates to my lil' project here.

As you already know, I've been trying to sort out the suspension. During my travels I found out Bilstein shocks and inserts can be rebuilt and/or re-valved. So the search for used donors began...
I was able to practically steel the rear ones (thanks forum) I picked them up for 50 bucks! Off they went to Bilstein in CA where they were rebuilt, shortened (for lowered cars) and custom valved for my cars weight and torsion bar size as well as type of driving. They will even valve them to your specs if you prefer. All told, they cost a tad less than new ones (Elephant pricing)
I have yet to send off the fronts but the total cost should be about the same as new.

This may be old news for some but it took me some searching to find this out. Also notable, Bilstein will be raising their prices after the new year for this service so better be quick! :D

That's it for now... I have a brick walkway to finish. :rolleyes:

saxen 11-18-2012 09:24 AM

any more shots of the front bumper setup? so far I"M LOVIN IT!! and poss the rears as well? what brand did you go with? tre?
thanks

wachuko 11-19-2012 04:01 AM

Are you done with the brick wall and back working the car? :D Any updates?

78SCRSMAN 11-23-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 7099170)
any more shots of the front bumper setup? so far I"M LOVIN IT!! and poss the rears as well? what brand did you go with? tre?
thanks

There is some info about this posted earlier in this thread but I would recommend TRE as most have posted good results with theirs. I used ????? Racing and the fit was beyond horrible! Go back to page 4 or 5 and you'll see what I mean.

78SCRSMAN 11-23-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 7100299)
Are you done with the brick wall and back working the car? :D Any updates?

I though I was all up to date but I could post a few shots of the rear suspension and brakes. I was waiting for the front to be done but Bilstein still has the front inserts.

On a low note: sadly the missus and I have some personal issues to resolve... Not to despair, the car isn't going anywhere. Point being, this project will have to wait for brighter days. :rolleyes:

mreid 11-23-2012 09:22 PM

I have TRE and the fit is excellent (front and rear bumpers for '74+).

High quality build, Mike, thanks for the detailed posts!

saxen 11-23-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 7110054)
There is some info about this posted earlier in this thread but I would recommend TRE as most have posted good results with theirs. I used ????? Racing and the fit was beyond horrible! Go back to page 4 or 5 and you'll see what I mean.

sorry, the first time I came across this thread I was on my cell phone, glad I went back and read that, the cost for a shop to correct that would have killed my budget.

one other question, the front lip on the bumper, any more shots of that?

JD! 11-24-2012 02:12 AM

Stunning build and an inspirational thread. Subscribed in a big way!

wachuko 11-24-2012 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78SCRSMAN (Post 7110065)
I though I was all up to date but I could post a few shots of the rear suspension and brakes. I was waiting for the front to be done but Bilstein still has the front inserts.

On a low note: sadly the missus and I have some personal issues to resolve... Not to despair, the car isn't going anywhere. Point being, this project will have to wait for brighter days. :rolleyes:

Sorry to read this... :( Hope you can work things out...

Targa4now 12-28-2012 08:08 PM

Amazing work.... Good luck with the other half. Subscribed.

74USCarrera 01-17-2013 09:58 PM

Great job! Subscribed/.....

78SCRSMAN 01-18-2013 07:39 AM

To those who are watching...
Don't give up on me, I always finish what I started, this may take awhile though.
Once my personal situation is resolved, I will continue to post updates... At this point the suspension is nearly finished but not quite!
Hopefully in the spring I will be able to get things rolling, as in wheels, tires and on the ground... Stay tuned!

kentSC 01-19-2013 02:56 AM

Great work. I have had my SC for 8 years and between you and Fisfcop I am getting inspired. Love your colour combo too. All the best to the both of you.

mercman 02-10-2013 12:55 PM

Hi Derek --- nice build and great job.

I have the same bumper -- curious if you used a 964 smile for the gap?

thx,

wachuko 02-10-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman (Post 7265172)
Hi Derek --- nice build and great job.

I have the same bumper -- curious if you used a 964 smile for the gap?

thx,

I can confirm that. I asked the same question. He used a 964 bumper smile.

Edit: Adding the part number: 964-505-143-01 (this is for narrow bodied cars)

78SCRSMAN 02-15-2013 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 7265592)
I can confirm that. I asked the same question. He used a 964 bumper smile.

Edit: Adding the part number: 964-505-143-01 (this is for narrow bodied cars)

Correct and thanks wachuko ;)


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