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Relation of engine number with build number
Grady,
Here is the first page of the build book for the start of the 901/911 production, (it also appears in Tobias Aichele's book "Porsche 911 Engine History...") The first engine in a production car was 900101 and the internal number was 1, further down on the list is 900129 internal number 29, engine 900161 is 61. It was only thru Dave's observation and study did it come to light that the internal number is the sequence number that is stamped on each engine. The pattern and predictability is now evident. Bob ![]() |
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Hey Grady, did you get my database? Not sure you are getting my emails.
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The current state of my list. I generally keep the ESR list up to date:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24913 Type Serial # Build # Pair # 901/01 900101 1 901/01 900102 2 901/01 900103 3 901/01 900104 4 901/01 900105 5 901/01 900106 6 901/01 900107 7 901/01 900108 8 901/01 900109 9 901/01 900110 10 901/01 900111 11 901/01 900112 12 901/01 900113 13 901/01 900114 14 901/01 900116 16 901/01 900117 17 901/01 900118 18 901/01 900119 19 901/01 900120 20 901/01 900121 21 901/01 900122 22 901/01 900123 23 901/01 900124 24 901/01 900125 25 901/01 900126 26 901/01 900127 27 901/01 900128 28 901/01 900129 29 52 901/01 900130 30 901/01 900131 31 901/01 900132 32 901/01 900142 42 901/01 900157 57 901/01 900161 61 901/01 900227 127 901/01 900236 136 901/01 900279 179 274 901/01 900659 559 901/01 900661 561 901/01 900685 585 767 901/01 900812 712 963 901/01 900924 824 901/01 901068 968 901/01 901109 1009 901/01 901277 1177 901/01 901363 1263 901/01 901449 1349 901/01 901467 1367 901/01 901667 1567 901/01 901954 1854 901/01 902016 1916 901/01 902023 1923 901/01 902214 2114 516 901/01 902409 2309 901/01 902441 2341 901/01 902461 2361 901/01 902562 2462 901/01 902586 2486 950 1965/06 casting date 901/01 902589 2489 901/01 902628 2528 901/01 903022 2922 901/01 903154 3054 901/01 903245 3145 901/01 903256 3156 in sync 901/20 906101 ???? first of this type 901/01 903614 3515 out of sync 901/20 906106 3629 901/01 903812 3724 901/01 903868 3787 623 901/01 903910 ???? last of this type 901/05 907001 ???? first of this type 901/05 907041 3879 901/05 907059 3900 901/05 907112 3954 901/20 906137 3979 901/05 907137 3984 901/05 907151 3998 901/05 907183 4036 901/05 907203 4056 901/05 907248 4101 901/05 907294 4150 901/05 907300 4156 901/05 907316 4172 381 901/05 907406 4266 901/05 907540 4405 901/05 907576 4441 901/05 907609 4474 102 901/05 907812 4677 901/05 907849 4714 901/05 907919 4784 901/05 907966 4834 901/05 908021 4889 901/05 908053 4921 901/05 908164 5032 901/05 908185 5053 calculated 901/05 909001 5054 calculated 901/05 909018 5071 901/05 909051 5105 901/05 909130 5183 901/05 909133 5186 901/05 909136 5189 901/05 909247 5338 901/05 909298 5414 901/05 909363 5560 901/05 909374 5576 233 901/05 909416 5645 901/05 909433 5664 901/05 909445 5703 901/05 909452 5710 901/02 960241 5763 901/02 960306 5873 901/02 960375 5998 901/02 960377 6010 901/02 960389 6022 901/02 960407 6052 901/05 909857 6099 901/05 909663 6194 901/05 909666 6202 901/02 960492 6225 901/05 909790 6429 901/05 909884 6667 901/05 909914 6697 901/02 960841 6821 901/02 960903 6885 901/02 960913 6895 901/02 960927 6925 901/02 960981 7067 901/02 961030 7150 704 1966/08 casting date 901/02 961095 7240 901/06 911166 7260 907 1966/09 casting date 901/06 ------- 7269 901/06 911224 7377 901/02 961178 7383 901/02 961208 7464 901/02 961225 7484 901/06 911305 7558 901/02 961304 7635 901/02 961390 7782 901/02 961403 7811 901/06 ------- 7976 901/02 961521 8009 901/06 911568 8137 162 901/02 961611 8183 901/02 961687 8316 311 901/02 961737 8395 901/06 911718 8504 901/06 911812 8706 901/02 961942 8744 901/02 962082 8987 901/02 962089 9002 901/06 911951 9044 901/08 4180003 9238 901/02 4080029 9272 901/06 3080031 9277 901/02 4080075 9337 901/02 4080111 9423 901/02 -------- 9525 901/03 2080005 9547 901/14 3280123 9874 542 901/07 3180047 9906 901/14 3280234 10234 901/07 3180061 10388 901/17 3380015 10493 901/17 -------- 10584 901/06 -------- 10743 901/14 3280327 10744 901/23 5080006 10856 901/02 4080418 10876 901/02 4080430 10923 901/14 3280369 10944 816 901/14 3280376 10958 901/22 5080012 11089 901/14 3280442 11233 534 901/02 4080524 11396 901/14 3280461 11397 901/14 3280501 11439 901/10 4490002 11474 307 MG 901/03 2080526 11624 901/14 3280529 11677 901/03 2080552 11710 901/14 3280550 11773 901/14 3280620 12050 500 AL 901/14 3280642 12134 ??? MG 901/14 3280670 12194 901/14 3280691 12279 901/14 3280696 12289 901/14 3280758 12510 901/14 3280822 12976 901/02 4080919 12986 901/17 3380223 13016 901/02 4080941 13108 901/14 3280920 13393 901/02 4081110 13965 901/02 4081121 14080 901/17 3380303 14124 901/02 4081172 14233 901/06 6380504 14286 901/14 3281289 15062 901/14 3281356 15372 901/06 -------- 15373 901/02 4081419 15415 901/02 4081449 15552 901/02 4081479 15688 901/14 -------- 15841 901/14 3281463 15943 901/17 3380402 16015 901/10 6390001 16250 901/10 6390050 16339 901/11 6298022 16359 965 901/10 6390067 16410 901/16 6195052 16416 901/10 6390086 16513 901/10 6390165 16941 901/10 6390195 17028 901/10 6390222 17084 901/09 6290204 17144 901/10 6390486 18358 901/09 6198054 18538 901/19 6198055 18585 901/16 -------- 18638 901/16 6195469 18742 901/19 6198095 18743 901/16 6195563 19205 901/16 6195671 19624 901/09 -------- 19692 901/16 6195715 19789 901/09 6290803 19803 901/16 6195728 19821 901/03 6190553 19846 901/16 6195782 20059 901/16 6195959 20835 901/10 6391067 20928 901/10 6391074 20962 901/09 6291062 21168 901/09 6291092 21324 901/10 6391343 22398 901/10 6391344 22399 901/10 6391416 22731 901/10 6391515 23256 901/16 6196376 24472 901/11 6298554 25451 901/09 6292157 25896 901/10 6392050 26014 901/10 6392102 26274 901/16 6197299 -no #- 0214
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fun, the case I just bought is also in the list: 901/06 911166 7260
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Dave,
901/03 2680526 11624
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Thanks, I'll periodically update this list in post 23.
If you can add the case pairing numbers or casting dates to any engine, please post the info.
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901/06 911166 7260 case pairing nr: 907, man date 09-66
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FYI Engine number 900141 Build number 41 Complete, unmolested with attached car: VIN 300040 Everything is there, unmolsted! ![]() Resting quietly here. Best, Grady
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Sleep well my prince, sleep well.....
Nice one Grady, that's you retirement account!
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Hello You responded to my quest for the engine for Targa 500404. You asked me to post the other block data. So ask so shall you recieve.
case #s 864 901/05 5071 909018 Thank you Scott
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Just a bump to see if anyone can add more data. See the latest list here:
Type 901/xx Engine Build #'s
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early number match
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Ex US car w. sunroof... now in Australia and converted to RHD. Chassis 301606 Engine 901935 Eng.Production No. 1835 Engine type 901/01 Cheers Bob |
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I have a 96 T engine I can add once I get home and look at it. I do remember its a 901/16 and *619xxxx I'll update hopefully tonight
Are you guy keeping a similar list for the later 911 engine's and are you trying to correlate the engine serials to the car serials?
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Thanks. Yes I correlate serial #'s to the VIN's. I'm not too interested in the 1980 and up, but do add them when I find them. For most engines I like the cast-in case half numbers (xR revision #'s) with the serial # to track the case evolution. Most of the data I keep on the Early 911S forum since the posts can be edited for years instead of the limited time here.
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Bump to see if anyone can contribute.
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901/10 6390793 49767
Chassis is a '67 912 K so more or less irrelevant, unfortunately. tranny is a 901 5 speed. next time it's up I'll get it for you. |
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Thanks, I think you will find the build # is 19767 since the # range only go to the 26xxx's, and this # fits my data well. Love to know the Karmann 912 VIN. Did you know that Karmann also had an independent serial on the body as well? That # is located under the access panel at the rear end of the tunnel; it may be hidden under carpet glue on the left side.
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I'll play... My 68s are:
901/14 3281365 15412 901/02 4081144 14179
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Thanks John.
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