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Indeed. You guys on here rock. Just sayin.

Old 11-25-2019, 07:48 AM
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It’s funny, I have this issue on the drivers side. And on the pax side it’s stock and I have a rounded out rear bold that needs Dremal 101
Old 11-25-2019, 07:50 AM
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Thread lock.......

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It’s funny, I have this issue on the drivers side. And on the pax side it’s stock and I have a rounded out rear bold that needs Dremal 101


Hotshot,

Some of these seat rail bolts still have some traces of thread lock and makes the removal next to impossible. I had stripped a few of these seat rail bolts attempting to remove them without success until I realized they had some sort of thread lock applied to the bolts. I borrowed an inductive heating tool from a member of this forum and after heating up the bolts, they came out with less resistance.

You need to find a way to get access to these bolts. Something is preventing the seat rails from sliding all the way front or back. This is your first goal to achieve before you will be able to get these stubborn bolts out. Don’t give up.

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Here is a last resort method that I have used with success.

Get a 1/4 metal chisel, line it up on the head of the bolt at a slight angle. The goal is to cut into the head and apply a turning force at the same time.

Obviously the bolt will be trashed, but if you get the angle right and give it a sharp whack it *might* turn for you.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:50 AM
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I welded an allen wrench to one bolt.
yes I covered everything inside the car to protect it.

tony had the best suggestion, heat. but an inductive heat source hot enough is the issue.


try unbolting one side, then try moving the seat again. you may get room
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:55 AM
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Trying. With the driver seat it’s the 2 fronts I can’t get lose. But agree that something must me in the way or blocking.
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and you have cut the allen wrench down and that did not help
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Nope. It fit but can’t turn. Those snap on bits lot great. $$$ though.
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Nope. It fit but can’t turn. Those snap on bits lot great. $$$ though.

there are plenty available that are similar but less money
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cut the end down so it fits.
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cut the end down so it fits.
Did that. No joy. Must be a block or a jam.
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have you taken out all the other bolts?
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The way it’s SUPPOSED to work is, slide the seat all the way back. That gives you access to the front bolts with a 1/4” hex socket and 1/4” wrench. Then, with the fronts out, you can slide the seat really far forward and access all 4 bolts at the back.

If your seat won’t slide back far enough to access the front bolts there is something blocking the seat rail slider.

The seat rails are indeed staggered slightly with respect to each other. One of mine is slightly forward of the other.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:38 AM
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Update

Well, after another pair of eyes is on it, I think I found the way they come out...

Via a hole in the rail track. Remember, some PO between 86 and Nov, had the seat support rails cut and rewelded 5” aft, so forget the bolts being accessible the normal way. So while sliding the seat forward there’s this hole.

I was able to loosen one bolt, but need to make another tool. My ball ends are too big and I can’t get a wrench and socket in.. as you can see the M6 Hex can’t go anymore counter clockwise without obstruction..

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I might try cutting my allen wrench down some.
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Do you have powered seats that adjust the height of the seat? Have you tried to raise the seat on both ends to give you some extra room to get a tool into that tight spot?


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Yes. That’s all that way up in the pic.
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Success!! You Need this tool.

After talking to a local Indy specialist who has forgotten more than I know, he said he had just the thing. He lent me these and I am grateful. I’m also ordering them.

My previous pic on using the side rail is correct but you need a very high quality M6 hex and very shallow. I was also able to get a factory pax seat bolt off I thought I was going to Dremel. Amazing what pro tools get you in a jam. So here it is.

A very shallow bit, and a wobble end extension. Just awesome tools.





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Well...glad you finally got it....

Love when a 10 minute project turns into a 7 day one...
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Well...glad you finally got it....

Love when a 10 minute project turns into a 7 day one...
Yup....

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