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Spark Plug Question
Hello I know our manual says to change our spark plugs every 30,000 miles or every 2 years. New cars today can go 100,000 miles before they need new spark plugs. So the question is do we need to change them every 2 years? I'm asking because I haven't even put 10,000 miles on them. Can they last 3, 4 or 5 years if it takes us that long to put 30,000 miles on them? Thanks
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Others will chime in with more info, but I think that really depends on how "clean" your engine is running. Today's cars are running near stoichiometric air/fuel ratios almost constantly - my old 911 with CIS sure isn't. I swapped plugs in November and was surprised how much better it ran (only 15k miles on those plugs, too).
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i don't worry about a time frame.
as said. new cars burn more efficiently. also the plug type can help. but run copper plus in your car. nothing fancy
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In Wayne’s book he recommends every 15,000 miles. As stated above age doesn’t really matter.
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Can you just give them a good cleaning and reinstall? Why replace if the electrodes are in good shape?
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The gap changes as the electrode wears. I noticed the NGKspark plugs wear faster than Bosch, I check the gap at least when I do a valve adjustment.
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My main concern with plugs staying in place for extended time, is the action between steel and Aluminum. So pull them, inspect and reuse them if thy pass, with a smidgen of Antisiez
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Stay away from anti-seize on spark plugs, we use a dab of wheel bearing grease. The metal, copper or aluminum, in the anti-seize can short out the spark plug. Also, use the lubricant sparingly.
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I believe anti-seize can only short out a spark plug if some is smeared on the porcelain. Shouldn't be a problem if the anti-seize paste is confined to a little bit on the threads. Also, I worry about grease carbonizing on the threads closest to the combustion chamber.
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I want to thank everyone for the replies.
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Pulled spark threads on Datsun
Many moons ago I pulled some threads on a hot rod Datsun work truck and really don’t want to repeat with the 911.
Is there a high temp dielectric grease that might avoid this problem, while not interfering with the full grounding of the plug. chris |
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Yes, but Datsun cylinder heads were made of compressed cheese. Avoiding unnecessary goops where possible is good practice.
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Just for the record, I have been putting anti-seiz on sparkplug threads for as long as I can remember, and I have had my shop for 48 years. Every customer car, my cars, my 2 track motors, and have never experienced an issue because of that. I mean very LITTLE is applied. I do know that chasing down a problem, the wrong suspect can be blamed. Most of us work in a bit of a bubble and don't have the resources to do repetitive tests and we frequently will have conflicting results from what seems to be someone else's identical process. Pelican has provided a forum to help expand the bubble and I am grateful for it.
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