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Location: Pacific Palisades, CA & Fallbrook, CA
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2.7CIS Engine, Runs, Drives, Smokes - Value ?
Have a running, driving, smoking 2.7 Engine with CIS in a 74 US Carrera. Smokes under power, case is dry, no visible oil leaks. There is no engine number on the pad, but motor was swapped out sometime in the 80’s I believe.
Any guidance on value greatly appreciated, car can be test driven to confirm its operational……what would be a fair ask for this? Thanks all…… |
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Suggestion: Have compression and leak down numbers available for potential buyers.
Any history of rebuild/repairs on the motor to help with valuation? |
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Done any trouble shooting?
These horizontal motors are famous for sitting and dripping oil from valve guides and rings into the exhaust and muffler. Smokes like a banshee until you can burn it off or swap exhaust. Additionally, a bad CIS mixture adjustment can make them smoke. Otherwise, core value is what these days, $3k? Give or take depending on serial # and motor type number. For awhile the blank pad motors were sought after and a 911/83 might be worth a few more bucks |
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I did a cold motor compression test last night and came up with this:
CYL #1 – 128# (large exhaust valve leak) CYL #2 – 152# (14% leak at 90 psi) CYL #3 – 149# (22% leak at 90 psi) CYL #4 – 150# (16% leak at 90 psi) CYL #5 – 120# (large exhaust valve leak) CYL #6 – 140# (30% leak at 90 psi) I am going to change the oil, adjust the valves, and revisit the numbers on a warm engine, the short time I drove it home from unloading down the hill it ran very very rich and yes, the HE's are probably soaked in oil as well......but those 100% leaks out of exhaust on 2 cylinders are unlikely to get better |
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That is a core engine with that much leakage all around. I have seen CIS engine properly rebuilt and complete sold for crazy dollars to bat sheet buyers on BAT for more than $30K. But rebuilding a Porshe 911 engine properly by a shop is a $20K endeavor or more. $5K max is the core value for your engine. It used to be $5k for a good running engine when the SC was down to $10k for a car.
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Yeah, I agree with yelcab1, somewhere between $5K to $7K.
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With those leakdown numbers, I would consider this a core engine and worth $3K tops. If, after adjusting the valves etc, the warm leakdown numbers all improve considerably, 10% or less...then it will be worth $5K or more......
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I will update those numbers when I have a chance to get back to that project.....if anyone in North San Diego County is interested in a motor feel free to PM me.....appreciate the input above
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