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Somewhere in the Midwest
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Backdate->Update->SCWDP->fat Carrera PIG!
So my backdate stalled, and I needed to get some track time...
Work has been on a crazy schedule, and I figure I couldn't finish the car properly and in time to catch the last couple of track days... Solution: buy another car...I though of an SC, but that idea was gone before it was finished...I thought about a 993, but Jim Richards' car is too pretty for me to bastardized (you know it would happen). I bought a black on tan 89 Carrera. And it drives like a fat PIG! It is like a lineman versus a half back when compared to my Bastard. The lighten 76 w/ a 3.0 is snappy and climbs the torque curve unlike any thing I've driven...(never drove a Viper before  )The Carrera will spend time as my daily driver (when the roads are salt free) and a stand in for track driving when the '76 is out for some reason. It drives OK, but it is obvious that there is a huge weight difference. I'm guessing it's close to 700 lbs of difference. So stay tuned you fat pig loving Carrera drivers...you're be crying when I put the bastard soul into the "Pig" after I get it into the super secret GruppeB lab. Get your tissues ready. I'm gonna make you shed some tears  and what was that? SCWD-what? Sorry, no pictures yet..it ain't clean enough... Last edited by MotoSook; 08-28-2004 at 05:23 AM.. |
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Souk, you clearly need a Steve Wong chip, euro pre-muffler and sport muffler on that thing.
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Deceased: Black '88 Carrera Coupe, Steve Wong and Russell Berry chips, Dansk premuffler, custom MK GT3-style muffler, Magnecores. Al Reed 7 & 8 X 16 Fuchs. Full Elephant Racing suspension, 21/28 T-bars, Turbo tierods, bump steer kit, Bilstein Sports, BK strut bar. Ruf bumpers, 935 mirrors, Carrera 3.0 tail, DasSport bar. '11 BMW 328iX, '18 Nissan Frontier 4X4, '92 Acura NSX. |
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08-28-2004, 03:31 AM
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Somewhere in the Midwest
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No! I want a Souk Wong chip
Really though, I have a pre-muffler already (remember? ) on the Bastard. I'll pull it off and put it on the Pig since Bastard will now likely get headers and a custom hush can....The Pig is going to be my daily car, and I kinda like it quiet the way it is. With the pre-muffler, it might just be right...no I've not gone sissy, but I don't like the idea of waking the kids and the neighbors when I pull out of the drive early inthe mornign for work. So yep..a chip is in the works. I need to put bigger rims on it too. |
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Congratulations! But before calling it a pig why not take it to the track and get some lap times for comparison.
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Well Bill (
), I took it out this morning on my usual test loop through the corn fields and really gave it a work out. It feels like a pig in the lower RPMs where my 3.0 feels better, but if I strip some weight off and then run it...I think it would be pretty close..maybe .. I have to give the Carrera Troops a hard time you know Here are a couple pix from a few minutes ago: crap can't upload...wait (something's wrong with Wayne's server) Last edited by MotoSook; 08-28-2004 at 04:58 AM.. |
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BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at D:\PelicanBBS\cgi-bin\vb\image_upload.cgi line 3. Wayne? |
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08-28-2004, 05:08 AM
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So, how do you like the G50?
Suspect most of the difference you're feeling is powerband differences-ultimate speed should be close, if not edge to the 3.2.
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08-28-2004, 05:44 AM
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The G50 is great! The lady of the house can drive it. She never wanted to drive the Bastard, and I don't blame her. The clutch and gear box takes more getting use to than she can bear..and see didn't want to be the one to mess it up...she too the Carrera out last night for a short spin and she "liked it."
I still can't upload a pic! But you all know aht a 911 looks like right?
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08-28-2004, 06:28 AM
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Excellent choice!
Pick a Carrera to bastardize instead of a SC.
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08-28-2004, 07:06 AM
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I did the recon on this car before Souk threw down the coin- what a good guy I am.....................
And Souk isn't being too exaggerative, for once  , about this car when he says it's not as lively as his other 911. The car has a noticeable hole in the torque curve down low. Just not much grunt down there. Car drives nice and runs excellent. No blowby on accel. nor decel. But something's missing off-idle and below 3000 rpm.I drove my car when we looked at the car a second time, and my feelings were confirmed. I'm not saying my car is a screamer by any means. I have all sorts of luxuries like a big stereo amp, sub, boat anchor RS America seats, spare tire (in the trunk, not on me), and basically very little weight reduction other than A/C removal and removed rear bumper pads. Nonetheless, my car has a much stronger low end torque feel. FWIW, my car has a SW chip and a premuffler. That's it. I'm sure with a little tuning, the car will move along nicely. Just needs a little TLC. Souk, that Autoth. chip is calling your name! Souk............... SOUK.................. put me in your New Pig........... nobody wants me............ Kevin couldn't sell me if his life depended on it.......... i'm just collecting dust over here.............. the price is right........ FREE to a fellow obese Carrera owner................ 
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08-28-2004, 07:06 AM
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How can I refuse the offer Kevin! Sold! For free
I'm thinking the cat might need to be replaced or my pre-muffer installed. It might be the low end restriction holding her back...
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"Free" might be a bit of a stretch. You'll owe me something eventually. And, no, I won't accept one of your sisters.............
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He's just glad you were merciful and didn't chose one of those old bombs to beat upon some more.........
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Maybe I should retract that last statement..................  Mmmmmm..........mmmmmmm 'sho is good.
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I'm tellin ya, chip that thing! You won't believe the difference. BTW, the pre-muffler adds a nice little growl, but not much louder overall. That G50 IS sweet, isn't it?
And to answer your question, I do think everyone here knows what a 911 looks like, except maybe Loren.
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08-28-2004, 07:54 AM
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G50 is great...the 915 aint't bad but it's a driver's box...
and for those who don't know what a 911 looks like 
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The chip, pre-muffler and a sport muffler of some type will liven the car up, but the off-idle/low rpm grunt still is not really there. My car didn't do much below 4,000 rpm stock and with the mods above the car came to life earlier in the rev range (3,300-3,500). My "pig' tips the scales at about 2,850 lbs with a/c and all the other Carrera bits, but the 3.5L should cure the lack of low-end torque. Nice car BTW. |
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