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wevoid 09-20-2004 12:28 PM

George,

Thanks to the link to the TUV site, I had a quick browse and clearly it will take some time to locate and digest the process required.

I agree with your logic on the 930 brake system and if our intent was for our new system to be used primarily on 930's we might have an issue to correct.

For a normally aspirated 911, the weight distribution and relative front / rear tire sizes are different to the 930, with rear tire load and grip affected (reduced) accordingly. If we had moved the static bias rearward, the chance of high speed rear lock-up would have increased significantly - being a far more dangerous condition than the risk of low speed front lock-up.

We have the freedom to adjust the piston sizes in both front and rear caliper piston blocks, a relatively simple proposition in our modular design. If we detect an issue we are open minded about making the adjustment.

Regards

Hayden

LARRY SHARP 09-20-2004 04:08 PM

Hayden did you mention how much it improved Tracy's lap times using the new spring plates and bearing set up ?

wevoid 09-20-2004 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wevoid

The car has since been track tested by both novice and expert drivers, but I am yet to personally track test the car.
The novice driver enjoyed more speed and predictability and the expert driver admired the predictability. Having said that I have no way to aportion the fine balance of the car to the WEVO SPS as the car was pretty good before and the novice driver is on the steep part of the confidence curve.

Larry,

I kind of discretely covered that above, I was keen to avoid any false advertising....
Although I thought Rich W hussling the car around at 1:48 with a passenger was significant

Regards

Hayden

LARRY SHARP 09-20-2004 06:12 PM

I was thinking both of the times were a strong selling points ..You make great products. I jus tput in a wevo shifter in my car .. works great and was easy to install. Will I see you at the open house on sunday?

widebody911 09-21-2004 06:37 AM

What's funny is, while I was installing my new PolyBronze bushings a couple weeks ago, I was thinking "gee, Chuck should make motor mounts out of this stuff..."

wevoid 09-21-2004 07:01 AM

Larry,

Yes, we will be there on Sunday, I just heard that Bruce Anderson is going to give his "History of the 911" lecture a couple of times, which I am looking forwards to, plus they have a 3.8 liter, Motec engine they are going to run on the dyno every hour, 75+ degree sunny day, friends, dogs, hot dogs.... California life is good.

Regards

Hayden

Craig 930 RS 09-21-2004 09:30 AM

FWIW, I am looking forward to the WEVO suspension products ---



My 3.6 Varioram 911 suspension:

JRZ adjustable shocks - fronts have the raised spindle type setup
2.5 front and 2.8 rear neg camber
225/245 A032R tires
Sanders 22/29 hollow torsion bars
Front monoballs

BUT.....the problem area are the bushings - 5 years ago we installed the urethane jobbers - there is a lot of binding and endless squeaking.

One cannot adjust these JRZ $hock$ properly with this much stiction.

With the amont of time/effort and $$$$ I've put into this beast --the WEVo & Elephant setup is a MUST --

jpahemi 09-21-2004 12:22 PM

Hope the WEVO brakes come to market; one can only hope!
J.P.

jpahemi 09-22-2004 06:52 PM

Hayden:
'Have anymore pics of the front brake mount area? Pad box?
Thanks,
J.P.

wevoid 09-23-2004 07:22 AM

J.P.

Here are a couple of pics of the front caliper. You can see this is attached with the O.E. SC mounting bolts, no adapters etc.

Regards

Hayden

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095952849.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095952906.jpg

Craig 930 RS 09-23-2004 08:38 AM

The setup you have pictured - is it fully functional as shown; ie
bolt it on my 911 and drive?

wevoid 09-23-2004 08:48 AM

Craig,

Yes these parts shown are full functional protoypes.

The only other things required to drive away a car like yours, would be a 23mm master cylinder and brake pads to suit your application.

Regards

Hayden

GeorgeK 09-23-2004 08:59 AM

For those like me who are "homologation challenged"; assuming you don't pursue any homologation, will the calipers be available without markings, and anodised black?
I know I am picky...



Oh yes, and home delivered by a stripper? :D

wevoid 09-23-2004 09:21 AM

George,

The silver color on these parts is nickel plating on the aluminum piston bodies, electropolished stainless on the fists and clear zinc on the fasteners (still certified 12.9 grade for those who know about this issue)

In each case the finish could be made black without resorting to paint.

Of course the WEVO text can be deleted in manufacture.

Was that a male or female stripper for the delivery? In that I have limited choices..

Regards

Hayden

GeorgeK 09-23-2004 10:04 AM

Hi Hayden,
Sounds better every time you chime in. We'll see what decisions you make on these.
For the stripper, I had in mind that UPS girl that was on the web for a while..

Another domain you could research for non available products would be an oil recirculation system that is on the end cover of the 915 gearboxes wit the outer loop to a left front fender mounted cooler, like there was on the 3.0 RSR

wevoid 09-23-2004 10:22 AM

George,

Ironic that you raise the 915 oil re-circ system.

We have a system in planning / design, it will be an exchange program, the front cover is machined / modified to accept parts - including a spray bar and return / relief valve.
The oil out is effected through the bottom cover plate - a more sofisticated version of our GateShift bottom cover, including a small sump and debris screen.
We had planned on using the LR fender for a cooler. Major limiting factor at present is sourcing an electric pump that meets my satisfaction. We went as far as scheming a dedicated (simple) peristaltic pump. The project is on hold at the moment, the only part we have tested is the oil-out sump plate - successfully completed a 25 hr test last year.

Like any of the products we work on, the install is intended to have very limited irreversible impact on the car.

Keep a lookout on Pelican, or on our site.

Regards

Hayden

GeorgeK 09-23-2004 10:31 AM

Hayden,
This is what I had in mind:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095964234.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095964254.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095964271.jpg

wevoid 09-23-2004 10:58 AM

George,

A quasi-repro of the mechanical system is not out of the question, but I have never been comfortbale with the longevity of the drive mechanism for the pump.

Perhaps not an issue on a race car lavished with factory care, but a street / track car where long service intervals are expected and simple remedial care is considered normal, I was heading towards an external pump.

Regards,

Hayden

armandodiaz 09-23-2004 11:24 AM

Maybe you can consider selling the cover seporately?

GeorgeK 09-23-2004 11:44 AM

Hayden,
Funny, my RS (and every one that has more than 50K miles on its gearbox) has a broken drive for the inner pump. Does the RSR outer pump use the same drive setup? if yes, then at the very least a beefup of the design (which is IMO more elegant), or indeed another drive seems indicated


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