Fuchs, please explain the difference

[andyjboy]

I don't think that there's any way that Porsche would stock/supply a non-forged 'Fuchs' alloy wheel.

As George (& others) have stated - all of the wheels that we generally refer to as 'Fuchs' - whatever the size or year produced - are forged.

PET has always had numerous mistakes/confusion in the parts descriptions - this is an example from PET 6 similar to that posted by K-Jetronic. It refers to the wheel options for the '86 911 3.2 Carrera:

[Bill Verburg]

Andys post show one of the obvious inconsistancies that are in PET.

Trust us on this there are and never have been any cast Fuchs used as oems.


There are cast aftermarket replicas.

[Joe Bob]

Anybody have the offset chart for P-cars around and can post it? Can't find the stoopid thang....

[Bill Verburg]

Try here

[Joe Bob]

Thanks Uncle Bill...%^B

[hahnmgh63]

There was never a cast Fuch's as we know them from Porsche. There are of course the aftermarket fakes that are cast. The Fuchs in question is no longer available so Porsche superseded it with the cast (probably ATE Cookie cutter or Phonedial) which is still available as a replacement. MGH

[HarryD]

As long as we are looking for stuff on Fuchs, I have a very vague memory of a web site that showed how fuchs were made. Showing first the billet and then the forging steps to completion. Interesting how the tiny billet became a wheel. Anyone know the url?

[GeorgeK]

Jack Olsen posted the article here a while ago. It was in Excellence.

[HarryD]

Originally posted by GeorgeK
Jack Olsen posted the article here a while ago. It was in Excellence.

George, Thanks for the lead. The thread is here.

BTW, Mr Weatherman says that the freezing level at Mt. Hood is down to 4,000 feet and they expect a dusting of 4 to 6 inches tonight. As if that is not enough, just to get me going, my skiing buddy came up to me yesterday and asked when we were going to go. I'll know it's truly the season when Warren Miller does his intro to his Ski Movie here.

Cheers.

[Paul Franssen]

http://www.otto-fuchs.com/english/index.html

...we could write Mr. Otto Fuchs a nice letter and ask him if we could borrow his press for a few days...

[K-Jetronic]

Just to confirm, I think mine are fake right?

These are all the idents I could find, the PO restored the wheels.

Just let me know your thoughts.

Gerko
1978sc

[GeorgeK]

These are fake indeed.

[K-Jetronic]

Just as I feared, thanks for your quick reply.

Gerko

[GeorgeK]

Not that it's a bad thing, mind you. They are certainly fine for "normal" driving. I don't think I'd take them to the track though. That 1080 Lbs max load would make me nervous on high speed-2 wheels in the air turns.

[Randy Webb]

Harry - folks are backcountry skiing up there right now - pic in the Orebonian.

I wonder if that forge still exists..... It's captialism, so if a sufficient market exists it WILL be filled. We just need to get over the barrier to entry here.... Who knows how much it costs to make the dies? And is there sucha thing as Rent-A-Forge -- BYO-Dies??

If it was possible it would solve the lack of R wheels for sure.

[K-Jetronic]

So I decided to buy some real Fuchs to replace my replica's. Indeed there are a lot of numbers on my new wheels can someone (maybe Bill?) explain what they mean and perhaps give me some more info on them? The wheels are 7j15 and 8j15.

wheel number one:
24
8j15
91136102012
as1062
0883

wheel number two:
the same as number one but with an extra +38

wheel number three:
a1
fco
1688 070 355
7j X 15
ET 23.3
911361020
as1062

wheel number four:
as number three, with extra
91136102011
as1 62 28139.2
975
19


Any info would be appreciated,

Kind regards

Gerko
1978sc

PS, this time I made sure they all were marked by the Fuchs (fox) symbol but they were also all marked with a triangle? The 8j's are white on the back/inside.

[Bill Verburg]

Yes, they are genuine Fuchs the 8s have a +10.6mm o/s (ET10.6 is embossed somewhere on the back), the 7s have a +23.3mm o/s

[K-Jetronic]

Thanks Bill,

By looking at the numbers can you tell me anything more, like maybe the manufacturing date or something?

Regards,

Gerko
1978sc

[GeorgeK]

Wheel one is probably 0883: 8th week of 1983
Wheel 2 is the same (so you write)
Wheel 3 nomention from the data available
Wheel 4 is 9th week of 1975

Actually, if they are not cracked, the date has little influence. The only interesting point would be if they took a 3 prong center cap, in which case, PM me immediately

[K-Jetronic]

Hi George,

The wheels were not fitted with center caps when I bought them, all four of them seem to have the same diameter center. How do I identify if they took a 3 prong center cap? The 8j's were white on the inside is this normal?

Gerko
1978sc