led RSR Tail lt. assy.
 

Dose anyone sell a RSR Tail lts that use l.e.d.???? My car is still on a diet but want to be seen on a dark night.

You mean like these?:)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105118754.jpg

ray911S sells them. They are sweet.

Thrown Hamer,Thanks!!......Now to find this dude as it just what I am thinkin.

:)

One detail: those are "R" lights, not "RSR." RSR's had normal rear lenses. (Of course, that didn't stop me from mixing the two.)

Ok I need a education.I relize they are not oem RSR..but are you saying they do not look like them??.Mostly I am interisted in less weight,,then maybe a "cool" facter

OEM RSR were the same taillights as in any other 1973 911. The lightweight lights you see on some early cars are 911R lights, which were from lightweight late-60's race models.

I don't know why Porsche didn't continue to use the lighter-weight replacements. It may have had to do with sanctioning body rules.

I run R lights on the back of my RSR-look 911. But I'm not at all strict about authenticity, with my car. I like the way they look, and that they're lighter.

Thank you sir, I am not that fussy either......just need to shed an other 100 lbs w.o. getting too weird..".take care of the onces and the lbs take care of them selves".......

I would guess that a cluster of LED's is going to weigh more than a 911R light with a single bulb in it. But the LED's might give you better visibility for people behind you. And then there's the cool factor. ;)

Then again, the bulb version of the R light provides a running light when viewed from the side, which I'd guess you'd need to turn one of the LED's to accomplish.

Here's my RSR-look with R lights (with bulbs, not LED's):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105214762.jpg

LEDs will be lighter than the bulb + metal holder/spring/etc.

But we are now talking grams.

The real wt. penalty is the metal die cast housing of the stock units - it is quite heavy. With the right setup you can approach a 8-10 lb. wt. savings at the extreme rear of the car. A worthy task.

Ya' know Jack, I think the only picture of your car I haven't seen is a canyon shot just as the sun has set with the lights on;)

Actually, the Rayburn & Williams 911R LED tail lamp assemblies use a proprietary LED lamp that is DOT SAE PP2PC 00 certified for both face and side visibility, so it does meet requirements for side running lights. This is accomplished through the design of the internal reflector, the design of the fluted lens, and the use of multiple LED elements. This design is patented and provides 180 degree visibility.

Our heaviest LED lamp assembly is the three function lamp (stop/turn/tail) and it weighs just 2.40 oz including the substrate/circuit board, LED elements, reflector, lens, and first segment of the wiring harness.

The 911R panels are available in two basic configurations:
Red/Amber (as seen in Shawn's photo above),
Red/Red (as can be seen on Chris Striet's racer).

Good lookin pcar Jack.......and ray if I am understanding right your lts provide side marking of some sort??????? pic please??

I don't have a straight-on side shot. From this view you may be able to see that the lens is domed and visible from the side. Flutes internal to the lens transmit light to the sides much in the same manner as a [somewhat inefficient] fiber optic.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105236498.jpg

The lights look great. Are the led's brighter than the standard bulbs? I ran the "R" lights on our track car and a few people felt the stop lights weren't bright enough.
What is the cost & availability of the red/amber lights. Are the housings part of the package or seperate?

'74 RSR track car
'73 S coupe
'73 E targa

Ray, do you have a shot of the housings with the reverse lights?

Can you PM me a link to where I can find the prices for them? I just checked the link that was posted in an old thread and got a page not found.

thanks

Now one more question do you have the lts like jacks (above)so The reverse lts are incorportated into it too........not tring to be toooo picky

Hopefully a couple current users will post their experience with these lights so you don't have to take my word for it. The LEDs are very bright and there is no trouble at all seeing them even in the brightest full-on sun.

Unlike incandescent bulbs which tunr on an additional filament to create more bightness (dual filament bulbs for blinkers and brakes, for example), the Rayburn & Williams LED lamp circuit utilizes both elements at all times and increases power for the added brightness for stop/turn functions.

I will try to post a shot of the panel with a reverse lamp installed later. There is not option that splits a single LED lamp into two colors like the Hella lamps, unfortunately. For users who do not want to use a full size element for reverse lamps, we have a couple options for LED back-up lamps that mount behind and below the rear license plate mount. Production prototypes should be ready in another week or so. These are on modular plugs so owners who track their street cars can unplug the lights at the track (if you absolutely have to save that extra 4.5 oz.).

THe R&W LED's are plenty bright, even in the daylight they are easily visible. I think part of this may come from the lens design. I asked some people I race with if they were visible on track in the sun. Their comment? "more that bright enough to see".

I've got a set of these lights on order with Ray 911s. Once I get them installed I'll post a pic of them on my '71 911T.

-Kaefer

Kaefer,
thanks...Il be looking fwd to it -(them)-

Can we look forward to ones with the stock lenses on them?

- I'd like to lose 8-10 lbs. but the gaps from where the FG housing mounts to the body have always bothered me....

Idea;if 5 or so buy at once can we get a grupee deal??????????

WHERE CAN I GET THESE LIGHTS FROM?

Contact Ray 911s

Ray:
Is there a way to get these as front turn signal lenses for a short hood (74-89) car?.... meaning.....something very small that would allow that space to be mostly "open" to allow air to come in?

I'll try to post an earlier inquiry of mine to illustrate, when I find it...

EDIT, here it is--> http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108692&highlight=turn+s ignal+Ferch

...either to replace the side marker light ( with enough "frontal" illumination) , or simply to replace the front TS light with something smaller.

Wil

Yes, actually there is. I will look up the photos and post later. I'm in the garage now trying to stuff the engine back into my car.

Ray...simply bumping this so it doesn't get too stale....

When you get out from under the car and have a few moments.....we'd like to see what you have available.

Not a big hurry.....

Wil

I made this one for our race car. I used an Audi side marker light. I drilled a 1/2" hole above the light and mounted an led light for the turn signal. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109088571.jpg

no reply on groupee deal??

Gumba:

That looks nice.....does it provide adequate visibility to on-coming traffic? I ask because this seems to be a race car application to satisfy ( maybe) rules......would like to know how this really works on the street.

Wil

Im in for a group buy too

:confused:

Order them from Wayne is my tip.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/911M/POR_911M_lenses_pg6.htm

For all who forgot this forum is sponsored by Pelicanparts


:rolleyes:

Pelican Parts doesn't offer the LED lights.....for all who forgot.

Will,
It works fine for the street. The led is the turn signal and reads well. The car is licensed for the street and I occasionally drive it on the street. I use a cooler in each fender. The front of the coolers are enclosed to capture all the air from the turn signal openings. At the track the temp is in the 190-210 range.

My low-buck version of R taillights.

The brake light (red area) is a low-cost LED-array bulb with about 12 LEDs. The others are still stock incandescents. More efficient (and brighter) bulbs are available with 48 and even 60 LEDs in a cluster for the 1157 socket.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109117174.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109117643.jpg
Incandescent bulb on left; LED bulb on right

Sherwood

Sherwood - does that use the metal housings?


BTW - at least one race catalog offers LED "rain lights" for 12 VDC.

Factory housings. Just an insert for effect.

Sherwood

This approach is similar to Gumba's, but for a stock mid-year bumper. The stock front lens is retained, but the side lens is removed for oil cooler air flow. Both lenses could be removed using this concept with lamps mounted on brackets behind the expanded metal grills.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109122195.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109122219.jpg

From the frontal views you can see the path of the cooling air. The next photo is more from a side view to show the visibility of the lamp.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109122256.jpg

Since the lamp is recessed behind the grills and basically hanging in space, any configuration of LED lamp assembly could be used.

edited to correct spelling

Why does PP list their parts for applications 74-89? Or was that just a factor of "where" it was listed in the catalog? These were originally used, obviously, on pre 74's so why are they sold as a post 73 part?

Not sure whether much air would find its way inside the bumper. I understand the "air scoop" that PParts sells is more at higher speeds. I wonder if anyone makes a mini-NACA duct for this application? :-)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1109122865.jpg

Sherwood