led RSR Tail lt. assy.

[afterburn 549]

Dose anyone sell a RSR Tail lts that use l.e.d.???? My car is still on a diet but want to be seen on a dark night.

[thrown_hammer]

You mean like these?



ray911S sells them. They are sweet.

[afterburn 549]

Thrown Hamer,Thanks!!......Now to find this dude as it just what I am thinkin.

[Jack Olsen]

One detail: those are "R" lights, not "RSR." RSR's had normal rear lenses. (Of course, that didn't stop me from mixing the two.)

[afterburn 549]

Ok I need a education.I relize they are not oem RSR..but are you saying they do not look like them??.Mostly I am interisted in less weight,,then maybe a "cool" facter

[Jack Olsen]

OEM RSR were the same taillights as in any other 1973 911. The lightweight lights you see on some early cars are 911R lights, which were from lightweight late-60's race models.

I don't know why Porsche didn't continue to use the lighter-weight replacements. It may have had to do with sanctioning body rules.

I run R lights on the back of my RSR-look 911. But I'm not at all strict about authenticity, with my car. I like the way they look, and that they're lighter.

[afterburn 549]

Thank you sir, I am not that fussy either......just need to shed an other 100 lbs w.o. getting too weird..".take care of the onces and the lbs take care of them selves".......

[Jack Olsen]

I would guess that a cluster of LED's is going to weigh more than a 911R light with a single bulb in it. But the LED's might give you better visibility for people behind you. And then there's the cool factor.

Then again, the bulb version of the R light provides a running light when viewed from the side, which I'd guess you'd need to turn one of the LED's to accomplish.

Here's my RSR-look with R lights (with bulbs, not LED's):

[randywebb]

LEDs will be lighter than the bulb + metal holder/spring/etc.

But we are now talking grams.

The real wt. penalty is the metal die cast housing of the stock units - it is quite heavy. With the right setup you can approach a 8-10 lb. wt. savings at the extreme rear of the car. A worthy task.

[89turbocabmike]

Originally posted by JackOlsen

Then again, the bulb version of the R light provides a running light when viewed from the side, which I'd guess you'd need to turn one of the LED's to accomplish.

Here's my RSR-look with R lights (with bulbs, not LED's):

Ya' know Jack, I think the only picture of your car I haven't seen is a canyon shot just as the sun has set with the lights on

[Ray 911s]

Actually, the Rayburn & Williams 911R LED tail lamp assemblies use a proprietary LED lamp that is DOT SAE PP2PC 00 certified for both face and side visibility, so it does meet requirements for side running lights. This is accomplished through the design of the internal reflector, the design of the fluted lens, and the use of multiple LED elements. This design is patented and provides 180 degree visibility.

Our heaviest LED lamp assembly is the three function lamp (stop/turn/tail) and it weighs just 2.40 oz including the substrate/circuit board, LED elements, reflector, lens, and first segment of the wiring harness.

The 911R panels are available in two basic configurations:
Red/Amber (as seen in Shawn's photo above),
Red/Red (as can be seen on Chris Striet's racer).

[afterburn 549]

Good lookin pcar Jack.......and ray if I am understanding right your lts provide side marking of some sort??????? pic please??

[Ray 911s]

I don't have a straight-on side shot. From this view you may be able to see that the lens is domed and visible from the side. Flutes internal to the lens transmit light to the sides much in the same manner as a [somewhat inefficient] fiber optic.

[gumba]

The lights look great. Are the led's brighter than the standard bulbs? I ran the "R" lights on our track car and a few people felt the stop lights weren't bright enough.
What is the cost & availability of the red/amber lights. Are the housings part of the package or seperate?

'74 RSR track car
'73 S coupe
'73 E targa

[Shuie]

Ray, do you have a shot of the housings with the reverse lights?

Can you PM me a link to where I can find the prices for them? I just checked the link that was posted in an old thread and got a page not found.

thanks

[afterburn 549]

Now one more question do you have the lts like jacks (above)so The reverse lts are incorportated into it too........not tring to be toooo picky

[Ray 911s]

Hopefully a couple current users will post their experience with these lights so you don't have to take my word for it. The LEDs are very bright and there is no trouble at all seeing them even in the brightest full-on sun.

Unlike incandescent bulbs which tunr on an additional filament to create more bightness (dual filament bulbs for blinkers and brakes, for example), the Rayburn & Williams LED lamp circuit utilizes both elements at all times and increases power for the added brightness for stop/turn functions.

I will try to post a shot of the panel with a reverse lamp installed later. There is not option that splits a single LED lamp into two colors like the Hella lamps, unfortunately. For users who do not want to use a full size element for reverse lamps, we have a couple options for LED back-up lamps that mount behind and below the rear license plate mount. Production prototypes should be ready in another week or so. These are on modular plugs so owners who track their street cars can unplug the lights at the track (if you absolutely have to save that extra 4.5 oz.).

[cstreit]

THe R&W LED's are plenty bright, even in the daylight they are easily visible. I think part of this may come from the lens design. I asked some people I race with if they were visible on track in the sun. Their comment? "more that bright enough to see".

[PcarPhil]

I've got a set of these lights on order with Ray 911s. Once I get them installed I'll post a pic of them on my '71 911T.

-Kaefer

[afterburn 549]

Kaefer,
thanks...Il be looking fwd to it -(them)-