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s4floorin 01-13-2005 11:26 AM

LS1 V8 or WRX engine swap?...
 
Which would you pick if you had these two choices to put into a 911 which will be tracked.
I think I can reduce the weight of the LS1 engine to a safer amount for the track. As for the wrx engine, it would be even lighter than any porsche engine.

I know the wrx engine may outhandle the ls1, but the brute torque the ls1 has, is very fun to drive.

If both swaps were done perfectly; which would you decide on?
the ls1 engine is 430lbs. im pretty sure.
the wrx engine should be 350 at most with turbo, loaded and all.

thanks.

the next post will be on whether it should be awd or rwd.
put that c4 transaxle to good use, or get a g50...hmmm....?

widebody911 01-13-2005 11:35 AM

Fee, Fye, Fo, Fum, I smell a... troll!

atlporsche 01-13-2005 11:40 AM

why would you do that?...smell a troll that is...where's that V8 thread...gotta resurrect it.

I love the subaru engine in my "mutt" 912.

the car doesn't drive any different, there's power on demand, and I designed the whole thing as a bolt in.

write me or come hang out on the porsche V8 renegade boards.

search for "porscharu", dude, you'll find lots here.

Oh yeah...I'm also building a 2.2L subaru in a '72 widebody shell. That'll be the turbo car.

Keep the chassis on the road, no matter what.

sjd

H20911 01-13-2005 11:50 AM

you are not going to get help with this here.
try

http://www.toy-jet.ls1fun.com/

he has a supercharged Ls1

gadams 01-13-2005 11:54 AM

check out this link to see what a porsche can do with a V8. The videos are a little slow to load.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sdfranco/index.html

Amac 01-13-2005 12:21 PM

This is an old fight.
Do somethimg different, put a helicopter engine in it.
You'll get a lot more interest here!!

scottb 01-13-2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amac
Do somethimg different, put a helicopter engine in it.
NOW you're talking!! :D

dd74 01-13-2005 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amac

Do somethimg different, put a helicopter engine in it.

I posted that same idea after seeing a turbine helicopter engine on display on the USS Midway in San Diego. The engine weighs something like 150 pounds, but puts out something like 1,500 pounds of thrust.

So what's more powerful 1,500 pounds of thrust or a V8? I dunno. But there has to be a weight advantage with the helicopter engine... :D

Victor 01-13-2005 01:02 PM

Just leave the Subaru engine in a subaru and take that to the track. Jeesus kid what the hell is wrong with you. The WRX is an all-round better track hack than an old 911 anyways.

atlporsche 01-13-2005 03:42 PM

not when you lose those two extra cylinders and 200 lbs off the rear of your 911. you've got a 50/50 weight disty then...

sjd

Jeff Alton 01-13-2005 04:06 PM

Hmmmmmm......... ........... Why?

BigD9146gt 01-13-2005 04:16 PM

Of all the chassis your going to put a scubi motor in, WHY THE '72!?!?!?!? WHY???? Honesly, I would never put anything but Porsche in a Porsche, but i respect those choose to do it.... WHEN APPROPRIATE. Rare chassis are NOT APPROPRIATE for "hey, i can't afford to bring it back to OEM status, lets put something cheap and water cooled in it! Huh huh huh!"

yasir 01-13-2005 04:19 PM

I would rather go with a 2JZ GTE and then turbo charge it viola 600 ponies in a 3100 lbs car :eek: O while at it i would also seriously consider putting the supra rear spoiler as well for an added down force :D
Hope that helps SmileWavy

doozer 01-13-2005 04:21 PM

Redirect yo self hea = http://www.pors-chev.com/

No Im not thrashing you because I own a bastardo myself.

Thanks
Todd

doozer 01-13-2005 04:25 PM

Wholy crap guys!! I forgot that I took photos of a one man helicopter ( made by PORSCHE ) hung from the celing of the flight bay of the USS Yorktown when I was on my road trip. I will have to find the photos!!!

Matt Holcomb 01-13-2005 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Victor
Just leave the Subaru engine in a subaru and take that to the track. Jeesus kid what the hell is wrong with you. The WRX is an all-round better track hack than an old 911 anyways.
You're off your dial, Victor. ;)

Victor 01-13-2005 04:38 PM

Common sense is seemingly not that common Matt.

WydRyd 01-13-2005 05:20 PM

I once read about a heavily modified Mazda 13B Turbo Rotary in a 911 :eek: Blap! Blap! Blap!

OK, so my car is a hybrid too, but damn, I wouldn't even consider shoe-horning such a motor into a 911 :confused:

Kevin Stewart 01-13-2005 07:49 PM

wrong bbs go somewhere else

atlporsche 01-14-2005 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigD9146gt
Of all the chassis your going to put a scubi motor in, WHY THE '72!?!?!?!? WHY???? Honesly, I would never put anything but Porsche in a Porsche, but i respect those choose to do it.... WHEN APPROPRIATE. Rare chassis are NOT APPROPRIATE for "hey, i can't afford to bring it back to OEM status, lets put something cheap and water cooled in it! Huh huh huh!"
because THIS 72 was completely stripped, and converted to short hood...except for the suspension and a couple of oil lines which were still on it...then in the early 80's, it was cut...BAD. ever see pictures of the DP body kits (i've seen the thread here) THIS 72 was cut just above the rear lights all the way to the fenderwell. fiberglass turbo fenders, and the HUGE DP rear bumper that looks like a 928 was put in place. The real tragedy was the DPing of a '72. The car was originally yellow, then black, then guards red, then white. I suspect it was a slant nose conversion.

nothing WE do to it won't be reversible. Trust me, all the good '72 parts will go to a good home.

BTW, You couldn't afford to bring it to OE status either. if you can, we're more than willing to sell it to you so it can be restored.

Flame away...I only make "mutt" cars from the total basket cases. I know better than to cut a perfectly good car.

I love how people fly off the deep end when they find this stuff out.

We've got a few parts if you need some. I think the oil tank too...I'd have to check.

sjd
hee hee hee...


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