The greatest auto invention of the century...(potentially)

Brother · 03-18-2005, 07:26 PM

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Firestorm.html

This is potentially the greatest thing since round wheels.

Anyone heard about this guy or his plugs.

50% Fuel Savings

250 RPM idles

No emmissions devices needed.

stealthn · 03-18-2005, 07:49 PM

Geez and I thought it was another cool collar thread...

The claims are all crap, it's a spark plug....good spark, efficient fuel burn, push piston....nothing to see here.

unclebilly · unclebilly's Garage

Yup, that may actually give worse performance by putting more crap infron of the spark. The spark is going to ark between the electrode and the closest ground (path of least resistance - always) so despite having all that extra crap on there will only be one spark and it will usually be in the same spot (unless different RPMs give different mixing in the cumbustion chamber) that the spark might be in different spots at different revs...

randywebb · 03-18-2005, 09:17 PM

Hey! His spark plugs "produce plasma"!! Take that you scoffers.

I'm gonna invent a spark plug that produces super-strings. Then if somebody makes fun of it, I'll just unravel reality around them. No more screwing around with quarks...

Sonic dB · Sonic dB's Garage

He claims that Bosch tested his plug with amazing results...wouldnt a big company like that just buy him out if they were so good and revolutionary?

Also...the claim at the end about the guy's patents being airtight....US Patent Law only applies to the US.... overseas is fair game for competition and stealing of ideas.

poorb0yw · 03-18-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by randywebb

I'm gonna invent a spark plug that produces super-strings. Then if somebody makes fun of it, I'll just unravel reality around them. No more screwing around with quarks...

LOL!!

daka · 03-19-2005, 02:38 AM

Talk about SCI FI...and what ever happend to the 100 mpg carburetor.....(or was it 200...oh I remember the big oil companies bought it out!)

Wavey · 03-19-2005, 03:14 AM

That makes about as much sense as putting Ron on the Rock.

Brother · 03-19-2005, 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by Wavey
That makes about as much sense as putting Ron on the Rock.

Wow, it was all fun and games until that comment. You're voted out of the tribe.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

Greatest automotive invention:

http://www.trunkmonkey.com

P.S. We can talk about putting Ron on the rock when we finish paying off his trillions in national debt.

Brother · 03-19-2005, 05:52 AM

We'll save the political discussion for another forum.

I just wanted to see what people thought about this invention.

It doesn't seem like people get "great" improvements from twin plugging. This seemed like snake oil to me, but I'm not an engineer.

masraum · 03-19-2005, 06:00 AM

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First, let's look at what Krupa's FireStorm spark plugs give an internal combustion engine:
• More horsepower;
• 44–50% increase in mpg;
• Dramatic decrease in emissions.
Second, let's see what FireStorm plugs eliminate:
• Smog pump;
• Catalytic converter;
• Radio frequency interference (RFI) and the use of resistors in the centre electrode;
• Gap growth;
• Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) systems;
• Misfire/hesitation/detonation/stutter and stumble.

How, you may ask, is all this achieved? In a word, plasma. The revolutionary design of FireStorm spark plugs creates an electric plasma that fills the entire combustion chamber like a firestorm. It allows you to take an internal combustion engine from the standard 14.7:1 air-to-fuel ratio to an incredibly lean 24:1. At this ratio, all the air/fuel mixture is burned much more efficiently without increasing heat, thus giving an engine more power and fuel economy while creating much less pollution. That's the good news

That's awesome. Then put the vornado infront of your airfilter and clamp a magnet to your fuel line to line up the gas molecules and those pesky SC drivers will have 400hp and get 50mpg while running open exhaust.

Brother · 03-19-2005, 06:09 AM

The one thing that sounded fishy(est) when he said that the more complete combustion was 100 degrees cooler.

masraum · 03-19-2005, 06:18 AM

The one thing that sounded fishy??

Brother · 03-19-2005, 06:20 AM

Well it all sounds like snake oil, but other than the list of attributes he posted and the "plasma". However, I don't have a good understanding of plasma so I can't comment.

sewell94 · 03-19-2005, 06:33 AM

i'm sure this is snake oil but when i was at SEMA there was a new ignition that claim it was of a plasma type, It cost about 12K bucks. They said a few of the f1 teams were running it, and that in a few years some of the oem will be running it also. Just food for thought.

unclebilly · unclebilly's Garage

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Originally posted by masraum
That's awesome. Then put the vornado infront of your airfilter and clamp a magnet to your fuel line to line up the gas molecules and those pesky SC drivers will have 400hp and get 50mpg while running open exhaust.

Don't forget to hook a platinum vapour injector up to a vaccum line, and if it's a ford V8, disconnect the #7 plug wire...

Jared at Pelican Parts · 03-19-2005, 07:05 AM

Use these and the Tornado and now you're talking power....

jtratza · 03-19-2005, 07:21 AM

Common guys it must be for real otherwise why isn't it being sold on ebay.

stlrj · 07:33 AM

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sounded fishy(est) when he said that the more complete combustion was 100 degrees cooler.

I suppose if you could run an engine that lean, 24:1 afr, it would have to run cooler since the btu's are in the gasoline and not the air to the point where if you removed enough fuel from the mixture it would keep running cooler and cooler until no combustion and only cool air came out the tailpipe.

High school chemistry or rocket science?

Joe