Add to this list of Hard-to die-Fallacies

[DavidI]

SC's are bullet proof.........I went out and shot mine to see...

David

[sammyg2]

TonyG, can you elaborate on the stud replacement?
thanks.

[TonyG]

sammyg2

There are a few shops around that insist that only the bottom studs on SC engines break. That the top studs don't fail. And that if you tear down your engine to rebuild or to replace broken cylinder head studs, that you don't need to replace the top. That it's a waste of money.

I've heard this over and over.

But the fact is that I, and some of my friends, have personally witnessed broken top studs (as have some people here on Pelican).

Why anybody would go to the expense of rebuilding a 911 engine and use 20+ year old cylinder studs just doesn't make sense.



TonyG

[sammyg2]

OK, thanks.
I've heard of dilivar studs breaking but I have never heard of a steel stud breaking, that's why I asked.

[donstevens]

Originally posted by Alan Cottrill
I'll save money by buying a 911 that needs some work and then doing it myself.

I think this is the biggest fallacy of them all. It is probably becuase the idiots who try it are too asshamed to admit that they were wrong.

Well Done Alan,

Don

[Whitechameleon]

"It's impossible to loose the back in the dry in a 911"

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by Alan Cottrill
I'll save money by buying a 911 that needs some work and then doing it myself.

Good one!
I've come to the conclusion that you can try to warn people but it's just one of those things that everyone has to learn for themselves. Maybe that's a good thing though.
-Chris

[ianc]

Maybe that's a good thing though

It is! It keeps the oldies fresh.

ianc

[island911]

Originally posted by ianc
It is! It keeps the oldies fresh.

ianc

. . and generally people get into it for the experience of it.

I know that when I bought my SC, in a twisted sort of way, I was kind of disappointed that it didn't "need" something fixed. ...I wanted to have a reason to start taking stuff apart.

[Gunter]

Island: Great! Here are things for you to do:
Take the CV joints off, clean, inspect, regrease, install with proper torque.
Next:
If I remember correctly, your rear main bushings need replacing.
Next:
Check the negative connection from the battery to the body; this is somewhat hidden and gets neglected. Take that bolt right out, clean the bolt, wire ends, and body area. You may find it a little rusty there.
Next:
Use dielectric grease on any and all electrical connections, especially the 14-pin, and the 6-pin connections.
Next:
Remove the foot plate over the pedals and take all the dirt/sand out from there; inspect the bushings in the pedal assembly. Do the same on the pass. side.
Next:
Take the lamp rings off and clean underneath.
Next:
Remove the expansion canister and the washer fluid tank under the left fender to get at the hard to reach braket between fender and body. That area can have rust due to the design of the bracket area.

Get back to me when you'r done and I give you more.

And, oh yes, do a photo re-touch of Drago with a fedora in a halter top, pink tights, tip-toeing on ballet shoes doing a pirouette. Make my day!

[vincenza]

How's this one .
Of Course I know how to drive a stick!!!


Vinnie in Ventura
1989 Silver Anniversary 3.2 911

[Porschephanatic]

Cool-Collars reduce oil temperatures 25%

[ja78911sc]

"It is less expensive to build a track car versus buying a car already set up"

[beepbeep]

"Turbos need rebuild every 60000 miles and cost twice to maintain"

[fireant911]

I have seen this particular fallacy posted here numerous times (even by some of the self-purported professionals) to the point I just shake my head in bewilderment... the requirement to get the oil temperature up to 210 F is necessary to remove the condensation from the oil.

[Quicksilver]

Originally posted by fireant911
I have seen this particular fallacy posted here numerous times (even by some of the self-purported professionals) to the point I just shake my head in bewilderment... the requirement to get the oil temperature up to 210 F is necessary to remove the condensation from the oil.

Down here where it is warm this is mostly overstated but the moisture does cause the oil to break down into various acid compounds but it isn't an issue if the car is driven with any frequency.

But...

Try living somewhere where it gets seriously below freezing. The frost forms everywhere inside the engine because water is a normal by product of combustion. This will cause a nasty looking gray sludge to form, which is actually an emulsion of oil and frozen ice crystals.

I wonder what an ice crystal does when it passes through a rod bearing?

Water contamination of oil is one of the reasons that driving a car only for short trips (where it doesn't get heated up) is so hard on a motor. Probably the biggest issue is dimensional problems with the size/shape of various components before they are up to operating temperature.

All in all getting the oil up to 180°+ for an extended period is fine as the oil temp rises quite a bit when it passes through the bearing journals because of the friction of the film shear.

[Rick Crider]

"Ain't a thang but a souped-up VW .... "

"Hey Crider ... the Mustang that just rumbled to a stop over here is about to eat your lunch 'ol boy!!"

"YES! I'm SURE I'm sure a Turbo Carrera isn't some sort of need or obsession. A nice Accord would serve my needs just as well."

"Seriously officer Mungo, sir, it just *sounded* like low-flying aircraft cresting that hill ....."

"The Turbos actually take *less* skill and attention than 911's ... "

"DUDE!!! The ricer's about to catch up!!!!"

"Of course I'm concerned about gas mileage and such .... and *nothing* I've done to my Porsche has *any* effect on the ozone, that 'Clean Air Act' thing or the general safety of the motoring public."

"Now, hun, you know these cars are mostly just a 'guy thing'. I waved back just to be polite ..... she probably woudn't know this car from a Yugo. Huh? The winking? I dunno ... nerve disorder maybe. Wha ... ? ME winking? Nawww ... now babe ... you KNOW me better than that. Wow ... I just love what you do for those new jeans ...... "

"Absolutely dead MINT"

"Hey ... it's a PORSCHE .... it's needs nothing but a driver like yourself. Just get in it an go!"

"Now listen .... always politely insist to examine their radar re-cert and the two most recent equipment calibrations. They'll just wish you a good day and your home free anywhere in that town."

"The Porsche 911 is one of a very few cars that actually *inhibits* the initiation of high speed pursuit. They know better."

"Well, in reality, it's just a car. Point A to Point B ... you know .. "

"Shoooot. Couldn't even told ya it was a woman driving. That Skylark had me thinkin 'bout Buick's design improvements over the years."

"YES I DO KNOW WHERE THE HELL I'M GOING AND **** NOOOO **** I DO NOTTT NEED A MAAAPPPPPP AND ***I***AM***NOT***MAADDDD*** !!!!!!"

"Hey man ... I'm your best bud ... you know I'll drive it like a sissy all the way to the beach and back."

"Now, son, *I* didn't dwell on cars when *I* was 15, and certainly didn't think I *deserved* a snazzy little German sports car like that. Just wouldn't have appealed to me at *your* age."

(OK .... must stop. This can get maddening. Good thread though.)

Rick

[p911dad]

"Honey, think of this purchase as an investment.. why, with the way Porsches appreciate it's a sure hedge bet on inflation.."

[donstevens]

Originally posted by gmeteer
"Honey, think of this purchase as an investment.. why, with the way Porsches appreciate it's a sure hedge bet on inflation.."

You have a lot of nerve posting that statement here where our wives might see it.....This is one of the "men's rules" that all men (at least Porsche enthusiast men) know but are sworn to never admit nor put into print.

Just kidding

Don

[Jgordon]

Crider - excellent post.