JP what can I say.... when you increase the displacement something has got to give.

I am not a professional... so I left it with the people that do this for a living. At CMW they race these things.... if it goes bang it means it was a little too much... ;)

Having said that I have seen some 3.8 jugs and I honestly could not tell the diffs between these and the 3.9 form a picture...

Mike, I've seen your car in person at Parts Heaven a couple years ago, very nice.

Any updates, This is a real interesting build.

Not much to report...

The strut towers and the RSR front air scoop have been welded to the tub. I haven't had the time to go to the shop and take pics last week...
Waiting until they start cutting to stuff the G50/31 in there...

But in the meanwhile I decided to go more aggressive on the cams...
I sort of given up on the idea of this being a family car...

So out go the DC-22 and in come the DC-62. The new cams will produce max HP at around 7,600rpm and max torque at 5,700. A bit peaky but with the short geared transmission I think it will be fun.

I am also thinking of getting a second set of wheels for the track. I love the Kodiaks



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I also like the Jongbloed wheels. I read somewhere they are the lightest wheels currently awaliable.. I like the JRW 305 aero.

This is a pic of a fellow pelican's ride (Tom W) with the Jongbloed.

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What do you guys think? I will keep the Lindsey Fuchs in RSR finish for daily driving...

I say go all or nothing on the track/street approach. By that, I mean if you are thinking of camming up the motor then go ahead and really go for it. Leave the street behind and look for maximum track performance in every area. Don't bother with the license plate, ever.

If you really do have plans for street driving as something more than 10% of the total time, then don't make the motor too peaky.

BTDT - Chris :)

Jongbloed's look good, Fikses are another good looking, high quality choice.
Where are you planning your first track event? I sure would like to be around to see this!
My next DE is at CMP Apr 22-23, then Roebling Road May20-21.
Keep us posted...

Jon

CMP is going to be really tight... certainly the new engine won't be in the car by then... Roebling is tempting.... But I am going away for the weekend... trying to convince the wife to change to the following one...

Otherwise it'll be 6/24 @ CMP or 6/23 at Roebling. Then VIR with car guys in Agust

NASA has an event June 17-18 at Rockingham, it is close by and alot of fun! Let me know if you are going to Roebling...

Today the gauges arrived from North Hollywood Speedometer...

They look great.

I decided to drop the clock and have a Volt/Trans Temp gauge done.

Also the oil temp has been converted to numerical (Celsius), the Speedometer to Km/h outside and MPH inside and the Tach up to 10k with redline at 8k :D

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Nice!:)

Matteo, I just ordered a set of 17" Kodiaks for an SC I'm buying. I don't know if there's someone in your neck of the woods that sell them but I ordered mine from Jerry St. Germaine at Euro East, he's a great guy to deal with. I think the best part about the Kodiaks is you're getting comparable quality to a Fikse or Kinesis, but not paying a premium for name recognition. Good luck on the rest of your project, I'm following it with bated breath!! :)

they did my gauges, I have the same clock replacement, nice!

My 2 sets of Kodiaks should be ready in about 10 days...... can't wait. Plus, they are about a 20 min drive from my house! I have seen their opertion first hand and it is first class.

Cheers

Are those trans temps celsius or fahrenheit?

Ha! Jack I hadn't even notice. It has to be Celsius. I didn't specify it to them but told them I wanted the oil temp in Celsius.

If it is Farenheit it will go off scale.

It always bugged me that they won't/can't do the volts starting from the other direction. I specified that when I ordered and they didn't even call to tell me that they couldn't do it.

Matteo,

I've been enjoying watching your build progress. Haven't seen any update in a while. Anything new to report?

T.

Nice project. I like the gauges, though, considering the motor you are building, I halfway expected the tach to go to 11. :)

On Friday Keith and Aaron from Zuffenhaus went to DC Automotive to cut open a 964.

Basically we have decided it was better to use the floor pan of the 964 to house the G50-31. The transmission mounts on the 964 are the same as on the 993 and since the 964 rear suspension was an evolution of the 911s (rather that the completely new design of the 993) Keith and Aaron said it was easier to adapt to my tub.

I am planning on going to the shop either today or tomorrow and take some pics.

The front mods should be done (RSR front pan for better oil cooling flow and smart racing camber towers) and right now the car is on the rotissery for the major floor pan surgery.

It should make the subject for some nice pics....

this is going to be a unique car for sure!

Frankenstein of the 911 world!! AWESOME! Clever ideas, too!
Looking forward to the pictures!

Doug

Would it be less expensive to purchase a 997GT3 or a slightly used 996GT3? I'll duck now!
j.p.

J.p. I think this was allready pointed out a couple times in the last 7-8 pages. haha.

it might have been, but it wouldn't be as unique or cool.

It might have been... But that was never really the point.

A GT3 (996 or 997) will also probably be faster around a race track and more comfortable. But then why stop at a GT3, why not a Carrera GT, if one has the means ... But to me a GT3 or a CGT would always be just a car, a fantastic car at that but always something standard.

For me this 911 will have a soul. Lots of people will have contributed to the realization of it. Aaron, Keith, Steve Timmins are putting the pieces together and thinking about the different solutions, but it's not only them.

I got my inspiration form this board. Call it romantic crap but it's the Bills, the Dougs, the Jameses, the Jeffs, the Chrises, Craigs, Danes, Zekes, Tysons, Rattlsnakes, Docs, Noahs, Daves, Waynes etc of this bbs (and there are many many others) that have had an input in it.

At the end of the day these cars are more to us than just a way to go from A to B. Any Toyota would be a better proposition if it was only that.

I find myself in the fortunate position where the financial aspect can take a back stage.

So yeah the GT3 would have been cheaper, faster, more reliable, more prestigeous... but the world is full of GT3s.

But enough of this sentimental crap.... I will upload the pics of the 964 floor pan in a few mins ;)

well said Matteo. everyone is a critic and that is the great thing about this board, they can be!

keep pushing forward and thanks for the help on my exhaust.

This is the floor pan as it was cut off the 964 donor

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Note how much bigger the 964 center tunnel is when compared to a 915 (or G50). This will mean that we'll have to rethink the heating and the shifter controls (well I guess my new Wevo G50 shifter will hit the classifieds session soon). The hand brake controls will also have to be lifted from a 964.

Also note how the 964 floor pan is just an evolution of the 911s. You can certainly see the T-bar housing holes. We (well again Keith and Aaron) will use them to line up the pan for welding.



And this is the car ready for the surgery

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And the 2 proud surgeons (keith ans aaron in the background)


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I totally agree.


PS
I got the heat tube today. Will ship it tomorrow!

I was wondering what you were going to do with that 6 speed ...

Matteo:
My observation wasn't meant to be critical; it just looks like your project seems to be one of incredible complexity. I could never imagine myself replacing a complete floorboard section of a car.
Cheers,
j.p.

JP
believe me I asked myself the same question several times. Maybe all that rubbish above is my way of rationalizing a stupid move.

I took no offense at your observation and this was never meant to get this far.... in a way it is all Bill Verburg's fault :p

I guess this is just an extreme case of the "whilst you are in there" disease... ;)

Matteo:

Thank you for sharing your project with us.

Mike

Man that just touched my heart, I feel the same way. And im being very serious Matteo, you really nailed it.


But that said, someday...(a little sparkle in my eye) I will own a 997 GT3.

Spoken like a true car guy, stock is never good enough.

Wow I miss a couple of pages and now a 964 pan is being swapped in!
Are you going to add lightness too?
Roll cage too?
What will it weigh when complete?
Keep up the good work!:)

Wow! Matteo, that is some undertaking!

May I ask, what was the reasoning behind floor pan swap?

Good luck with your project!

The goal for the weigh is 2,200-2,300. The steel widebody, big brakes and big wheels/tires combo are somewhat of a penalty. The rest is as bare as it can be.

We are going to have a custom made bolt in roll bar (I still want to retain the back seats for my 2 little girls to ride in it).

The main reason for the 964 floor pan is the 6-speed G50/31 transmission.

There were a couple of options avaliable but Keith and Aaron felt that swapping the floor pan was the cleanest solution.

Thanks for the kind words.

The '74 tub has been cut open. Welding the new floor will begin tomorrow or Thursday. Pics to come soon!

This is not a project I would want to total up - but hats off to you for tackling it. Just don;t kill that money tree,

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It is?? Man, somebody send one over!

I like your attitude, and applaud your pursuit of the goal while not constantly talking to your accountant!