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rennch 01-19-2013 06:02 PM

It's been a year...did this ever get finished?

WERK I 01-19-2013 07:21 PM

Did the 911R sell yet?

eimkeith 02-01-2013 07:23 AM

Ha! We're getting wrapped up with the prototype 964 backdate hard oil lines (making them in SS with attached Kevlar/PTFE hose ends for long life and good weight characteristics) - I'll post some photos soon.

Additionally, the assembly continues - there was a significant setback due to someone (this someone) forgetting to add the old-style jack points to the 964 tub. We had to almost completely disassemble to fab/schutz, causing a significant schedule delay. :(

We're back on track now though. :)

Pictures coming, as I realize we all come here for the photos, not the articles ;)


keith.

(sent from my rotary dial phone.)

wachuko 02-01-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emptyo (Post 7218271)
It's been a year...did this ever get finished?

That is is like a few days in project time :D

wachuko 02-01-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eimkeith (Post 7245438)
...Pictures coming, as I realize we all come here for the photos, not the articles ;)


keith.

(sent from my rotary dial phone.)

Cool, you know us well ;)

eimkeith 02-01-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Did the 911R sell yet?
I think you're mistaking us for a European fellow that had borrowed our name...?

kojo911 02-01-2013 10:23 AM

sub'd

oldldh 02-17-2013 02:30 PM

I'm suffering from "lack of update photo syndrome"...

RWebb 02-17-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eimkeith (Post 2971699)

grafting in the 72 oil door assemly and modifying the 964 oil tank is 13 hours.

yow!

- did that include paint?

eimkeith 03-07-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7279974)
yow!

- did that include paint?

Nope, that's properly cutting in the 4 panels, installing the door mechanism, and extensive modification of the tank.

drb930 03-07-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eimkeith (Post 7314698)
Nope, that's properly cutting in the 4 panels, installing the door mechanism, and extensive modification of the tank.

Keith,

How much just to modify the 964 tank?

eimkeith 03-07-2013 11:29 AM

OK, I'm back. with updates.

In fact, I didn't realize how many photos haven't been posted here :eek:

I'll stuff them in as I get them uploaded.


I'll start with the backdate oil lines that we're making for this project. Here they are during initial bending:

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/036%20(Small).JPG

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/032%20(Small).JPG

In these photos we're following the contours of some factory lines as closely as we can - considering the original lines are a fairly soft material and 30+ years old...



We did a preliminary fit on the car, made some cuts and rotations as needed, and ended up with this:

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/964line3q%20(Small).JPG

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/012%20(Small).JPG

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/053%20(Small).JPG

We then pulled these lines, made a fixturing jig, and had the 'prototypes' scanned for data collection. New lines are being made from the prototypes for this car.



Also, did you happen to notice the jack-receiver tube in this photo?

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/964line3q%20(Small).JPG

When's the last time you saw that on a 964? ;)


The lines are made from Stainless, and will have crimped hose ends with metric fittings. (They will be black, per Porsche)

eimkeith 03-07-2013 11:44 AM

We've also done some tidying up of the wiring harnesses. It turns out that a '72 doesn't need a lot of wiring!?!

Goodbye power mirrors!
Goodbye power door locks!
Goodbye speed-adjustable motorized wing!
Goodbye power seats!
Goodbye power sunroof!
Goodbye rear wiper!
Goodbye alarm system!
<strike>Goodbye anti-lock brake system!</strike> <-- retaining this!
Goodbye cruise control!


Here is some of the stuff that isn't needed in a real car:

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3441%20(Small).JPG


and this is what tidying up the harness looks like:

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3442%20(Small).JPG

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3427%20(Small).JPG

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3435%20(Small).JPG

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3434%20(Small).JPG

eimkeith 03-07-2013 11:57 AM

Some other interesting tidbits -

Here are the refinished/modified/restored instruments, still wrapped in plastic.

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3446%20(Small).JPG

You might notice the early dash core in this photo, allowing the use of the correct early steering column and levers, and all the proper dash switches and stuff.
It's this sort of thing that puts the soul back into this 911, IMO.

The intent is for the driver to feel early 911. Not the arcane stuff, but the feel of manual steering, large relatively thin wheel, metal stalks and guts on the levers, heavy knobs, incandescent amber instrument lighting, environment stuff...

That coupled with a more rigid unibody, tuned coilovers, large & effective brakes, tight-ratio 6 speed gear box, torquey 4 liter...



Also, working with specialty manufacturing in our brake and wheel product lines gives us access to some cool stuff, like these motorsport-deigned wheel studs/nut combo:

http://eurowerks.us/Zpics/IMG_3431%20(Small).JPG

- which should be tasty in combination with RSR Zuchs...

mamut 01-14-2014 06:23 PM

More, please, more!!!!!!

M491Cabriolet 01-17-2014 03:35 AM

Very nice. I may just want to ask Keith to make one of these for me to use as a daily driver... Are any years of C2 more suited to this mod than others? How about a C4? Would it be cheaper to just convert one of these to look like a Carrera RS?

GaryR 01-17-2014 04:30 AM

I don't think "cheaper" is a word that belongs in this thread.. LOL

I bet this build is well over $100K.

merbesfield 01-17-2014 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryR (Post 7861015)
I don't think "cheaper" is a word that belongs in this thread.. LOL

I bet this build is well over $100K.

My exact thoughts as well :D

78SCRSMAN 01-17-2014 06:53 AM

What a great project! Thank you so much for sharing Keith.

M491Cabriolet 01-18-2014 06:22 PM

Well, it's all relative, isn't it? To do an RSR takes a whole lot more metalwork than an plain RS clone. Therefore, it would probably be cheaper. Make sense? :)


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