R gruppe roll call

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally posted by Jack Olsen
....R Gruppe is a relaxed, low-key and Concours-averse bunch, by and large. How these online threads get so bristly always surprises me.

uh......uh....don't help me here....uh....maybe its because you ARE an Rgrupper, Jack?

I'm kidding of course but I have ALWAYS heard that the Gruppe didn't really want non-Gruppe tagging along or showing up all that much either. If that perception is wrong, wel....SOMETHING is causing it to continue.

[ckissick]

Originally posted by TRE Cup

Scheduled route:
MEET Conrad's Restaurant , 631 Foothill Bl, La Canada, 91011
8 am MAY 3 for breakfast. Drive out time 9 am
Turn right from parking lot onto Foothill,
Continue to Route 2, Turn right
Continue up straight onto Angeles Crest Highway- turn on headlamps- required
Continue past Angeles Forest turnoff
Continue approx 8 miles to Upper Big Tujunga Canyon- LEFT
Continue to Angeles Forest Highway- Turn RIGHT (Regroup point)
Continue to Hwy 14 east Palmdale direction (Regroup point)
Take Highway 14 to Palmdale Bl- Turn LEFT (west) (GAS UP here or later at Frazier Park)
Continue Lake Elizabeth Road (Palmdale Blvd becomes Lake Elizabeth) thru Lake Hughes community to T intersection - Turn LEFT
Continue to Pine Canyon (small road approx 15 miles from T intersection on your left only- big tree with clapped out Renault chassis under it on your left) Turn LEFT (regroup point)
Follow Pine Canyon thru the twisties- Turn Right at stop sign and follow down hill to Quail Lake Road- Turn LEFT
Continue to Hwy 5 and go NORTH
Follow Hwy 5 North to Frazier Park Road- Exit and turn LEFT
Gas / Pee stop (Regroup point)
Follow Frazier Park Road to Pine Mountain turn off- Turn RIGHT
Go thru Pine Mountain and road becomes Cerro Noroeste.
Follow Cerro Noroeste all the way down to 166. (someplace along the way we will stop for a regroup)
Turn RIGHT on 166
Follow 166 to Maricopa/ Taft turn off- Hwy 33- LEFT (stop sign here anyway)
Follow 33 north into Taft (youwill have to make a left turn to continue 33 into town) Gas stop / regroup Point
Follow 33 north out of Taft to Hwy 58- LEFT
Continue on 58 up thru the twisties and down the other side- Will stop for a regroup point
Follow 58 to Hwy 229- Turn right- STOP regroup point- This road is incredible and we will run it both directions- up and back!
After we run it back south- we will stop regroup, laugh ourselves silly over the driving on that road, then turn RIGHT to follow 58 all the way into Santa Margarita. Turn LEFT onto main street (after RR tracks) in Santa Margarita. STOP at local restaurant. Sorry- I don't remember the name of it. (This is our planned lunch stop IF we decide not to eat at the diner in Taft)

After the Santa Margarita stop, we follow the main road west onto the 101 south.

101 south to madonna road- turn towards Embassy Suites, park car, kiss your porsche, then the ground- You've made it!

Hey Dave, I mapquested the route and it said:

Get on 101 north;
Exit Madonna Road.

You gotta love Porsche drivers!

[techweenie]

Can I bring my black Audi wagon?

[dzls rok]

I'm kidding of course but I have ALWAYS heard that the Gruppe didn't really want non-Gruppe tagging along or showing up all that much either. If that perception is wrong, wel....SOMETHING is causing it to continue. [/B][/QUOTE]

i am not an r gruppe member, but have shown up to some of their fun drive/get togethers with my golf tdi and was not turned away nor given any bad vibes/attitude.

[randywebb]

The bristles per thread index now stands at 3.

[Wayne 962]

I'm going to try to make it, but not if the baby hasn't come yet. And if the baby just came, I wouldn't count on it either. I have a book signing going on at the BimmerFest that Saturday, so I might drive up Sat, and then head down to the BF in Santa Barbara. It would work out perfectly, but I don't know if kid #3 is going to play along and pop out later on this week.

-Wayne

[nameisbauer]

Whoa, call me a noob.

Sounds like fun, I will try the route friday night or saturday morning. Some of have to work around here!

[surflvr911sc]

Here's how the RGruppe really treats non-members!




As if being shunned wasn’t bad enough; they labeled me as a spy and posted their hate propaganda, mocking me in front of the entire Porsche community.








IMO, if you haven't shown up to an RGruppe event (invited or not) and personally experienced the reception and ‘attitude’ you’ve received (or perceived), then your opinion is irrelevant at best.

[eimkeith]

We'll by flying out Thursday to see you guys.

[mjshira]

Keith looking forward to having you out. Thanks again for helping me with my car recently. I guess you were taking a break from having an attitude for a moment to do that b/c since your in Rgruppe you must be a jerk based on what I read here. ;-)

[lateapex911]

Sigh... I WISH I had to worry about being ignored or snubbed or accepted. Fact is I am 3000 miles away, and I CAN'T glam on and check out some neat cars...

Sigh....

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Jake, I'm only a 100 miles away. I could ignore you from here if you like.

That is after I get your input on taking my car down to metal.

[curtisaa]

the "short hood --long hood" BS is nothing but "BS". Sorry Dave, I believe this thread has been sissy-jacked by some sorry a** loosers.

Randy, don't waste your breath !!!

[}{arlequin]

Originally posted by Jack Olsen
R Gruppe is........(snip)................ and Concours-averse bunch, by and large. How these online threads get so bristly always surprises me.

i dunno... there was this outrage on the earlyS board when one guy's 'for sale' rgruppe project was 'outed' and shunned b/c it was labelled gruppe when in fact, it didn't have the gruppe's vin/chassis #'s, not to mention that it had 'the wrong wheels'.

if they were concourse-averse, i would think minilites, 7r's, deep 6's, and early sport seats would come down from their stratospheric prices...

but i do have to say, a lot of the gruppe's cars are bad-ass as hell... would love to ride 'em hard for a session or two

[lateapex911]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Jake, I'm only a 100 miles away. I could ignore you from here if you like.

That is after I get your input on taking my car down to metal.

Man, thats a lot of work, or mess...why are you considering it? Is there a thread going about this??

Yea, I *do* love some of those R-Grppe cars...they all seem to be a bit evil...

I will say this though, if Dave (of TRE) invited me to drive up with him, I'd drag my shaggy ole 911 up to TRE pretty darn quick, and enjoy a great ride with some interesting machines. And if I could go kick some tires at the gathering, all the better. I'm really not going to lose sleep over my car not being "in" the club...I just like driving and tracking it...

But since I'm 3K miles away, I can only druel!

But hey, thats just me!

[MMARSH]

Maybe it's me. but I think Dave answers who is welcome to join his ride in the fourth post. Personally all this other stuff belongs in another thread.

I wish you were leaving on friday. I would be all over that. Your riding thru my back yard.

[Jeff Higgins]

I'm looking forward to both the drive down and meeting the California crowd. This will be my first Treffen, having missed out due to work commitments in the past. Three days on the road on the way down with the PacWest chapter is just going to be a hoot. Then a couple of days in town with the rest of the guys, meeting up with the 356 Registry; it just doesn't get any better than that. One week and counting...

[JTO]

If you PNW guys are stopping at Medford, let me know. I'll buy you a beer.
Troy

[DW SD]

I've attended a few r-gruppe drives / events. In every case, I've been treated as a friend and fellow enthusiast, even by those folks who had never met me before. From what I've seen, the politics and BS is on the outside, not on the inside of the gruppe. I'm not a member, nor am I aware of how that happens.

At this stage, I've turned down many more invitations than I've actually been able to take part in. I am in awe of some of the cars and think the hotrod 911 concept is extremely cool. I have not nor will I meet everyone, but from what I've experienced.....Great cars & great folks.

If you are feeling left out, start another group and do it your way.

[island911]

Originally posted by Jack Olsen
...
R Gruppe is a relaxed, low-key and Concours-averse bunch, by and large. How these online threads get so bristly always surprises me.

Ok, seriously, you mut be thinking of Gruppe-B.

"Concours-averse bunch"!? . .. R!? ... c'mon.
I'll admit R-guys aren't presevationist, but as one long-time R said "it's become an RS wannabe yacht club." I've got to agree.

Gruppe-B; they're the ones with dirt under their fingernails, bastardizing their cars in a very non-conformist (usually frugal) way. R-grope is about dumping money into 'the project' until proper one-upmanship is afloat. ...of course there are guys like Tyson, Dave... who are invited in because; hey, even captains need a crew now and then.