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wachuko 06-14-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Facey (Post 4002620)
that is straight out, outta control !

got engine plans to date?

Initially it will be all show and no go... stock 3.0 engine for now ($$ being the limiting factor for now...)...

Then I would like to have the engine (still kept NA) beefed up... and with a classic look (6 nice trumpets, carburetors or fuel injected, but with the carburetors look)

efhughes3 06-14-2008 12:50 PM

No go is a relative term. I'm sure it will be more than fun when you get it done. But the old Horsepower-itis will kick in at some point.

wachuko 07-02-2008 01:22 PM

Rear tires in place... saving up for front tires...

Michelin Pilot Sport (PS2) - 335/35R17

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02028_medium.jpg

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My brother was on vacation visiting... so I put him to work... out with the old:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02033_medium.jpg

In with the new:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02036_medium.jpg

Other side...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02037_medium.jpg

Now I can continue with fitting the qtr panels...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02045_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02047_medium.jpg

911 tweaks 07-02-2008 03:59 PM

talk about meat... those babies will pave roads & leave w i d e tracks...

wachuko 07-09-2008 04:24 PM

OK, wheels and tires installed. Now for the fun part: Body work!

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02122_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02120_medium.jpg

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I also need to decide on the color. Initially I was going to paint it the same color the car has now with black Carrera script... but lately I have been thinking about 997GT3 RS Orange with black Carrera script...

Jeff Alton 07-09-2008 04:39 PM

Looking good!!!

I will get back to you about the center caps shortly....

efhughes3 07-09-2008 07:29 PM

Ya gotta love the look of RSR fenders...

rennch 07-09-2008 08:36 PM

Looks great! Congrats!

Reaper930 07-21-2008 07:18 AM

Absolutely wonderful...the look of such gargantuan rear tires is the stuff of legends! You will be able to grip the world :)

BTW what is the actual width of the tire shoulder to shoulder in inches?

wachuko 07-21-2008 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper930 (Post 4073283)
Absolutely wonderful...the look of such gargantuan rear tires is the stuff of legends! You will be able to grip the world :)

BTW what is the actual width of the tire shoulder to shoulder in inches?

I will measure that when I get home tonight.

As far ast he color, going with Continental Orange. So it will look similar to this one:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215786888.jpg

Orange photos for 1974 RSR 3.0 Project

Since I also got a sample of the 997 GT3RS Orange.... So it does not go to waste... I plan to take the rear spoiler, prep it, paint it Continental Orange, use the 997GT3 RS orange and paint a stripe in the middle... just to see how that looks. I will do this as a test... final paint job I will leave to the professionals.

Reaper930 07-21-2008 07:50 PM

I hope you're ready for that kind of attention! Its going to look absolutely breath taking in that shade. The Jeger cars were always my favorite.

nyne11 07-21-2008 11:01 PM

Nice job with the tires...I tried to get 335/35/17 here in Aus but were not available so settled for 315/35/17 Sumi's, not sure I would have got away with 335's anyway under the standard turbo look rear guards. Will your rear wheels need spacers at all to fill in the gap or is it an optical illusion?
Dave.

wachuko 07-22-2008 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyne11 (Post 4074963)
Nice job with the tires...I tried to get 335/35/17 here in Aus but were not available so settled for 315/35/17 Sumi's, not sure I would have got away with 335's anyway under the standard turbo look rear guards. Will your rear wheels need spacers at all to fill in the gap or is it an optical illusion?
Dave.

Optical illusion. The wheels were done to fit the fenders. It is just that the rear qtr panels are not installed... just presented.

dial 911 10-29-2008 08:47 PM

hows the project coming along?

POORSH 10-29-2008 08:57 PM

Cliff,
is yours seeing daylight anytime soon?

dial 911 10-29-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by POORSH (Post 4270445)
Cliff,
is yours seeing daylight anytime soon?

i dont think so. sadly, it will be hibernating for a good while.

wachuko 10-30-2008 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial 911 (Post 4270436)
hows the project coming along?

I have been working on the 964 (renewing suspension parts and also replacing a few oil lines and aluminum crush seals). So no work/progress on this one.

I do take it out like that around the block just to keep the engine without issues... can't wait to start working on it again...

Thank you for asking. It will be a several years project as I can only do it in the few free hours per week or month I get.

Dazzieboy 02-22-2009 01:41 PM

I've just read both chapters of this project and have to say its brilliant. Are there any major updates as I noticed the last post is October. You may also be able to answer a question thats bugging me, how come you can get the rear flares in 13", 14" and 15" does this relate to evolutions in period or just different manufacturers takes on the original?

Good luck with the build

Darren

wachuko 04-12-2009 03:48 AM

Well, a quick update, after some soul searching I have decided to give it to a pro to finish the body work and paint... that way I have a chance to use the car before I am 80 years old :D

Also, decided to go with Recaro Pole Position for the seats. I tried one yesterday and my butt fits.

bergporsche 05-04-2009 01:00 AM

Any update!

Wonder how the project is going.

;)

wachuko 06-17-2009 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bergporsche (Post 4643136)
Any update!

Wonder how the project is going.

;)

Car goes to the body shop next week. I am tired of driving around the block like that... want to be able to take the car out on the road... so best to take it to an expert to finish it before I am to old to shift... SmileWavy

juicersr 11-17-2009 05:42 AM

Hey 'chuk, any updates or pix from the body shop?

Kevin Stewart 11-17-2009 08:48 AM

I agree any updates, Kevin

Jammo 11-17-2009 11:31 AM

Hi, cracking job there mate....
I have been involved with similar jobs as your doing, but we have always worked with steel, but are thinking of giving the fibre glass alternatives a try.

I have one question if you dont mind helping - the steel transfer is more or less the same as you are doing but what, or more like how, are you going to mate the door outer edge with the fender flare where it abuts to the door - as the fibre glass is on top of the original wing.
It's no problem with the steel as we cut off the outer fender over the door jam so the new fender is level with the original door.
Very interested in understanding how you eventually did this.
That is going to be one awsome looker - well done.
Regards

Jammo.;)

Packy 12-06-2009 10:37 AM

subscribed

wachuko 02-02-2010 07:16 AM

Well... decided to work it a little bit more before it goes to the shop... a lot of friends are just telling me to take a stab at it....

Finally getting a chance to resume work on this project...

Removed the rear qtr panels and bumper to start working on it again...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02790sm.jpg

Pressured washed the whole area:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02785sm.jpg

Might be a good time to remove the oil tank and detailed it... clean it, paint it, etc... hummm... now the "while you are in there" sub project start to show up...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02786sm.jpg

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http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02791sm.jpg



The previous owner, since he had the car close to stock, covered the second exhaust side. I will remove that cover and weld a small 3" pipe to then install the small radius elbow and get the dual exhaust finished.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02787sm.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02788sm.jpg

A few more baby steps...

Cut bolts and drilled holes on the stock bumper support. Made a metal piece with two bolts welded to it to glue to bumper with epoxy. This will allow me to remove the bumper with ease...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02788smmod.jpg

Also finished modifying the muffler with the dual exhaust. Still need to cut just a little bit more to have the tailpipes closer to the middle of the cut outs in the bumper.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc_0001_copy2.jpg

With the bumper now centered and held in place by bolts in the shocks, and the braces from the side, I can now work on aligning the quarter panels.

wachuko 02-02-2010 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jammo (Post 5016519)
Hi, cracking job there mate....
I have been involved with similar jobs as your doing, but we have always worked with steel, but are thinking of giving the fibre glass alternatives a try.

I have one question if you dont mind helping - the steel transfer is more or less the same as you are doing but what, or more like how, are you going to mate the door outer edge with the fender flare where it abuts to the door - as the fibre glass is on top of the original wing.
It's no problem with the steel as we cut off the outer fender over the door jam so the new fender is level with the original door.
Very interested in understanding how you eventually did this.
That is going to be one awsome looker - well done.
Regards

Jammo.;)

Fully understand your question. The ones that I have seen are just glued to the metal with a special epoxy and then blended in by filler and sanding... So the end result is a panel area that is ticker than original due to this blend...

SlickV8 03-04-2010 02:34 AM

Hi, just picked up on your thread - fantastic. I've just stripped my '84 car and about to begin '73 RS conversion. I was going to order from GT-Racing today....you happy with the panels overall?
Also, i'm sruggling to find rubber seals to go between the rear lights and bumper/qtr and the same for the front...have you sourced any?
Many Thanks,

SlickV8 03-04-2010 02:38 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1267702591.jpg
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Original car 3 weeks ago - gearbox rebuilt, engine sweetened, Quaife LSD fitted, new Bilstien clubsports, Lowered

Tim K 03-04-2010 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickV8 (Post 5216976)
Hi, just picked up on your thread - fantastic. I've just stripped my '84 car and about to begin '73 RS conversion. I was going to order from GT-Racing today....you happy with the panels overall?
Also, i'm sruggling to find rubber seals to go between the rear lights and bumper/qtr and the same for the front...have you sourced any?
Many Thanks,

Please do a search here on the different fibreglass suppliers. I think the consensus is that GT's parts require a ton of work to get nice fit and finish. Having said that, most fibreglass panels do require some work.

Start a new thread introducing yourself and your car. You will find people here are very knowledgeable and helpful. :)

Tim K

911-32 03-05-2010 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickV8 (Post 5216976)
Hi, just picked up on your thread - fantastic. I've just stripped my '84 car and about to begin '73 RS conversion. I was going to order from GT-Racing today....you happy with the panels overall?
Also, i'm sruggling to find rubber seals to go between the rear lights and bumper/qtr and the same for the front...have you sourced any?
Many Thanks,

You can get panels/bumpers in the UK - try Pro-9 - and there are a number of euro suppliers as well. Shipping, VAT and Duty plus the FX rate will kill you importing from the US at the moment IMHO.

SlickV8 03-11-2010 09:03 AM

Thanks, got a thread started on rennlist
'73 2.8 RS Backdate Project - Month 1 - Rennlist Discussion Forums
Rgds,

wachuko 04-14-2010 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickV8 (Post 5230609)
Thanks, got a thread started on rennlist
'73 2.8 RS Backdate Project - Month 1 - Rennlist Discussion Forums
Rgds,

Cool :cool: Subscribing to that thread! SmileWavy

I should be starting again on this car in about two months... I have been side tracked by this one:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc01416sm_small.jpg

chris 964 11-05-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 5294586)
Cool :cool: Subscribing to that thread! SmileWavy

I should be starting again on this car in about two months... I have been side tracked by this one:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc01416sm_small.jpg

Might be interested in my brothers 124 Andy & Lindsay’s Fiat 124 Spider

Glenntpr 11-23-2010 05:38 AM

Dude you are making all of us look pretty bad. Whats up with your dream garage? Great job!

esotoracing 11-23-2010 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 3568893)

i had that 959 poster on my wall since i was 15 or so. . .i still have it rolled up somewhere. It will go up sometime soon (as soon as i move)

jmitro 11-23-2010 08:06 AM

the widebody look is really nice.

is this for a streetcar or racecar project? I'm guessing a streetcar with no cage, street tires, and a reclining seat?

this car would be cool to race, assuming the mechanicals were on par with the cosmetics. :)

wachuko 06-29-2012 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmitro (Post 5689043)
the widebody look is really nice.

is this for a streetcar or racecar project? I'm guessing a streetcar with no cage, street tires, and a reclining seat?

this car would be cool to race, assuming the mechanicals were on par with the cosmetics.

Road... but now we are thinking of tinkering with the engine... will see...

Finally some progress... Thanks to a friend that took on finishing the project... now is a joint effort and moving a heck of a lot faster.

Inner duct (sorry for the small photos...)

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img_1034.jpg

Building a lip and reinforced mounting points

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img_1035.jpg

Let's glue this puppy!

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img_1041_small.jpg

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Passenger Qtr Panel now in place. Bumper also attached (not sure if you can see the screws on the bumper. Those are to hold the inside bracket while it dries. Bumper can be removed easily and it is resting on the stock bumper shocks.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/ds...dium_copy4.jpg

Rear wing blasted, glued, and ready to be primed...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/ds...dium_copy1.jpg

Moving to the front... that mount looks sooooo much better than my first attempt...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img_1126.jpg

Mirror holes welded shut... look at the perfect gap of the fender and the body!

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img_1127.jpg

Door dings fixed...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/img_1128.jpg

That is all for now SmileWavy

wachuko 06-29-2012 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim K (Post 5217312)
Please do a search here on the different fibreglass suppliers. I think the consensus is that GT's parts require a ton of work to get nice fit and finish. Having said that, most fibreglass panels do require some work.

Start a new thread introducing yourself and your car. You will find people here are very knowledgeable and helpful. :)

Tim K

Tim,

That is an understatement... the amount of work to make these parts work is overwhelming...

In my case, Joel sent me two different Qtr panels... one that was made with hand layed fiberglass cloth and one that was made with shooting it (similar to the method used in the boating industry)... So the thickness was not the same, the weight was not the same, the holes (openings) are not the same... So to make it look even on both sides is a major pita... and I ordered the parts soooo long ago that I will not even try to get a new qtr panel to match.

With these parts it is best to see them before you buy. Not something everyone can do as they might not be close to the vendor's location.

Anyhow, I ended up joining forces with a friend. I basically told him that I will give him the car if he paid to finish it... he gracefully accepted but only if we share ownership of the car ;). He found a guy that works wonders in the bodyshop and it is finally moving in the right direction and looking like it will be finished with a quality of work that I could only have dreamed of accomplishing.

ted 06-29-2012 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 6830060)
the amount of work to make these parts work is overwhelming...

So true, this is not a kit for a backyard body man.
Hang in there and once you get it out of the body shop it gets a lot better! :)


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