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I'll be dropping my motor to install a new clutch, light flywheel, & headers. I also have a SW chip to install once the exhaust is in. Looking at the bolts...I hope they don't break during removal. I plan on doing this after my return from B.A.'s class in December. I hope to meet some of you there!
Question 1: What other items would be best to change/inspect at this time? The motor currently has 95k miles on it, but I'm not sure what the PO changed. If I could, I would overhaul the top end, but I don't want to down the car for a long period of time just yet. I just got the car about 2 months, and would like to enjoy driving it more first. There's nothing wrong with the car currently...no smoke, rough idle, hard starting etc. so I'm not too concern about a rebuild at this time. Question 2: For those of you that have a light flywheel, what are the pros & cons you have experienced? Mahalo! ![]()
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1/4 inch ratchet and extensions
3/8 inch ratchet and extensions 1/2 inch ratchet and extensions 10mm socket 12mm socket 13mm socket 17mm socket 19 mm socket 22mm socket 6mm allen socket long 8mm allen socket, short 8mm allen socket 10mm allen socket with a ball end 12 point tripple square socket for the flywheel (10 or 12mm I forget) 10mm wrench 12mm wrench 13mm wreches of different size, configurations, bends, 15mm wrench 17mm wrech 19mm wrench 32mm wrench or an oil line wrench small med and large torque wrenches 0.1mm feeler guage small / med / large flat screw drivers small / med / large philips screw drivers oil seal picker circlip pliers hammer and a piece of wood gasket set oil and filters jack stands 2 jacks 2 small furniture dollies one engine stand with engine yolk (optional if no engine work is planned) one engine lift or 4 large neighbors (optional if no engine work is planned0 transmission oil and 17mm allen socket if oil changed is planned one bag of 50 rags That is the minimum list required !!! Life is easier if you have air compressor, impact gun, impact sockets, a set of 39 piece Sears tap and die set, various picks, magnets.
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Fuel lines Shocks Flexible brake lines Brake pads Oil lines ( right side, I've seen them collapsed some times) For starters, once your get the view under, you may see other things.
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I really hated the light flywheel. Make sure you know what you are getting yourself into with that. The engines idle get rough so you may have to raise it and you lose all low end grunt. That loss of torque sucks with an engine that is already terrible on the low end. Be very sure that you plan to use the engine at high RPM's on anything more than a slight hill.
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![]() ![]() ![]() Okay wise guys...I got all of the above except the beer! ![]() Now that I know what tools I need, what should I be doing with these tools? Should I be concerned with fuel lines/filters? Are these item problematical? Any hard to get to parts that should be changed while the motor is out? EarlyPorsche - Thanks for the feedback, I usually shift around 4k - 4.5k, as that is my cruising rpm. I figured if my bimmer can handle that my Porsche should. How is the acceleration? What about NVH? Thank you everyone for info. I know it took a lot to type up the list of tools and it did serve as a check list for me. PS....One last major question...what brand/kind of beer?
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Beer choice is up to you, if I made a suggestion this thread may never end...
Dont minimize beer for this undertaking it is very important and vital.
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Then I'll do it. CORONA
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While your in there:
Throw out bearing and TO bearing fork gaskets Oil pressure switch (before it goes bad!) Replace oil lines and vacuum hoses Adjust valves (replace valve cover gaskets with silicone type) Plug wires Plugs Change the Tranny fluid Replace clutch cable Clean injectors Replace injector sleeves and gaskets Engine bay gaskets Re-build distributor Re-paint the engine bay Remove the tin and shroud and clean out the cylinder fins Powder coat engine tin and valve covers Powder coat fan and housing Replace engine tin screws with shinny new ones That is all I can think of now that would be on my list. Your list may vary and can easily get longer. I would at least do the first four. In fact, now that I think some more, since you will have all that room to work, you might as well disassemble the rear suspension and freshen all the bushings, wheel bearings, struts........ ![]()
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1/4 inch ratchet and extensions (for all 8mm or smaller fasteners) 3/8 inch ratchet and extensions (for all mid size fasteners) 1/2 inch ratchet and extensions (for larger ones, like engine mounts) 10mm socket (above) 12mm socket (the only time needed is for the hollow tensioner bolts) 13mm socket (90% of the time) 17mm socket (almost never) 19 mm socket (engine mounts) 22mm socket (turning the engine fan) 6mm allen socket (CV bolts, fan shroud) long 8mm allen socket, (Exhaust bolts) short 8mm allen socket (intake manifold) 10mm allen socket with a ball end (starter, head nuts) 12 point tripple square socket for the flywheel (10 or 12mm I forget) 10mm wrench (10% of the fasteners) 12mm wrench (used, once) 13mm wreches of different size, configurations, bends, (all the times, including the exhaust) 15mm wrench (engine / tranny nuts, engine carrier nuts/bolts) 17mm wrech (fuel connections to filters) 19mm wrench (anti-sway bar) 32mm wrench or an oil line wrench (Oil lines) small med and large torque wrenches (all over the place) 0.1mm feeler guage (adjusting valves) small / med / large flat screw drivers (stabbing yourself in the hands) small / med / large philips screw drivers (pokijng holes in the shrouds) oil seal picker (engine main seal) circlip pliers (removing the only circlip holding the clutch actuating arm) hammer and a piece of wood (installing oil seal) gasket set (so your Porsche does not imitate a Ferrari by leaking) oil and filters (don't reuse the oil) jack stands (never crawl under the car w/o them) 2 jacks (one to support the engine, one to support the tranny) 2 small furniture dollies (putting them under the engine to move it around the garage) one engine stand with engine yolk (optional if no engine work is planned) one engine lift or 4 large neighbors (optional if no engine work is planned0 transmission oil and 17mm allen socket if oil changed is planned one bag of 50 rags (because you are a slop)
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Wayne's 101 projects book is great for the first time engine drop. Or this tech article
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_engine_drop/911_engine_drop-1.htm and you really should have German beer! Jay
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Mahalo for all the feedback!
I see I'll need to do some PP shopping and use my on line discount. ![]()
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I'm suprised nobody posted a link to this thread yet: Ultimate SWB Engine Drop Checklist. I know that Woody's car is not a SWB but this is still an excellent checklist!
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I don't plan on dropping the transaxle, but I may end up doing that once I get started. However, if I do that reasoning tells me to have it rebuilt and then I might as well do the top half...hmmm. Decisions decisions!
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It is much easier to drop engine and trans as a unit, it is for me......what about the beer.
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- You really need to buy yourself a Bentley Manual - the cost will be nil after you do 1 engine R&R.
* Drop the entire powertrain as a unit - do not try to just drop the motor by itself. - Do a search for engine + drop -- there are numerous threads on this and they are quite comprehensive. |
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This thread is awesome - thanks! I want to rebuild my transmission over the winter, so this is some great reading.
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