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959 spare parts list - what did I leave out?

In order to "protect" the value of the car, I am going to order a whole bunch of spare parts from Porsche. In the past, many of these have been unavailable, which has made the cars difficult to service, if not drive regularly. Here is my first draft of my list, I'm just curious if I left anything obvious out that you might think of:

Distributor Cap
Distributor Rotor
Front Shocks
Rear Shocks
Front Brake disc left
Front Brake disc right
Rear Brake disc left
Rear Brake disc right
Front / Rear Pads
Ignition Wires - left
Ignition Wires - right
Hub Cap
Front turn signal lens - LT
Front turn signal lens - RT
Front headlamp lens
Air Filter
Oil pump to cam seal
Narrow v-belt, 9,5 X 684
Narrow v-belt, 9,5 X 694
Air box restraing strap
Air filter
Front Pad wear sensor
Rear Pad wear Sensor

Thanks in advance for your input...

-Wayne
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Oh, there are some things that are not 959-specific that are not on this list, like the spark plugs and the fuel filter, off the top of my head...

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What are you going to do about the 4 NLA shocks? Can they be serviced?
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Rubber sections of fuel lines
All rubber seals and gaskets in fuel system
Rubber sections of brake lines
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Clutch & plate - if 959-specific. Those don't really go bad over time. Also relays.
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The Flywheel, wheel bearings, brake system pressure pump and hydro-accumulator, engine chain tensioners, engine cooling fan hub bearing, various oil hoses, engine coolant/water pump seals and gaskets, engine coolant flange gaskets, fuel injectors and all the electronic control units are just to name a few items that we have had to replace regularly on the 959's. I have not checked to see if the wheel bearings, brake hoses and brake parts or the others are all interchangeable with another model. I personally would not stock the ignition wire sets. They have not seemed to be a problem.
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wayne , heres some advice from someone who gets to deal w/this maddness on an hourly daily weekly monthly yearly basis.

you have bought yourself a "toy". plain and simple. a very rare toy. and an expensive one at that.

i get to deal with "vierd"(wierd) toys all damn day long.

a 20 year restoration you will have some headaches as far as parts. a 30 year resto and you get to grab yer ankles.

be it a plane/vehicle/ dirt or street bike, add "experimental" or "rare" to equation and the headaches become bigger. lets use a 1960 DORNIER DO-27 as an example. giant pita to find any parts and they made a hell of alot more than 200 during their production years. everything is a nightmare to source, anything left has been crashed and burned-literally. or use a merkur xr4ti(not mine). mercury nor ford want anything to do with it. sierras are different than what was sent to the u.s. once again a giant pita parts sourcing.

your fortunate that teutonic wisdom and analizms prevailed while the 959 was being produced. but none the less there are less than 200 of them left. would be interesting to find and probably a shocker to see how few there are still left, let alone running.

your best bet is to find a wrecked one. not so far fetched when you start pricing and availabilty list and ram head on into the wicked 3 letters "NLA".

now when those evil 3 letters rear their ugly head, you start going to, junkyards or e-mailing them. at this point you realize that the junkyard can charge anything he wants if not sometimes higher than part was originally, because he has it. and you want it, bad enough to pay any amount.

the above is known as the "addictive fetish" phase. no cure known except acceptance of your behavior.

the next phase you enter............is the realization that you have to machine the parts. be it plastic or metal. entire companies have been started from this part of the addiction. reproduced parts.

as the owner of quite a few vintage dirt bikes.........pentons and husqvarnas, i was relegated to machining parts, or bike no workie. since growing up in aviation machine tool industry, i had quite a few shops i personally knew the owners. big plus right there. found a number that could do parts when they were slow in short runs. short runs meaning 50-100. this made the sticker shock "kinda" bearable. and then sold parts to recoup investment.

with your addiction the numbers are less. and to have parts made, and then let them sit on shelf til someone hopefully needs one, is not cost effective.

so back to square juan. making one or two off parts. not cheap by any stretch.

my suggestion.............get to be real good friends with plastic injection shop and a machine shop while searching for a wrecked 959!

rubber parts will be a nightmare 20 years from now. buy as many and as much as you can engine wise.

a little thought and some money will lessen the headaches down the road.

good luck with this. i know of only one 959 here in az. and he lives in tucson. he shows his car at both phx and tucson concours so im sure you can find his name easily and pick his brain.

sooner or later the machine shop equation will present itself.
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Perhaps you should convince your wife that you need a second "parts" car.
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Perhaps you should convince your wife that you need a second "parts" car.
One of my favorite lines from "Contact" - "remember the first rule of government spending - why buy one when you can buy two for twice the price?"
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Wayne, aren't the tire pressure monitoring systems mechanical?
If so, you will probably need some of those connections/hardware down the road.
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I would echo what was said earlier regarding all electronic control boxes, sensors, and other transducers that are unique to this car. You won't be building any of these in your machine shop, guaranteed.

At a minimum I would research cost and availability for all electronics. Any custom chips, etc. used in their making are likely already NLA...
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Fuel injection parts/seals?
The wear items seem too numerous to list, but ten years from now the prices will definitly be a whole lot more if the $/euro keeps falling.
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Wayne,

Maybe you could become the official supplier of 959 parts. Is this not what Stoddard did with a lot of the early 911 parts? I'm sure that the factory would be glad to not have to stock and track the stuff. Somehow I think that your (smaller company) could do this more efficiently. I'm not suggesting that they'd give the parts away, but maybe they would be willing to deal.

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Porsche’s current business philosophy seems to be “’ve vant to kontrol the vorld”. Well at least the entire Porsche, VW and Audi part. I see this as the reason they are having everything ‘in house’, particularly the service information except where prevented by law.

PAG also seems inclined to try and make older cars ‘go away’ when they are no longer a source of huge profits. They do this with exorbitant parts prices and NLA on some critical parts.

Wayne, try and search for a crashed 959 sitting somewhere.

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In order to "protect" the value of the car, I am going to order a whole bunch of spare parts from Porsche. In the past, many of these have been unavailable, which has made the cars difficult to service, if not drive regularly. Here is my first draft of my list, I'm just curious if I left anything obvious out that you might think of:

Distributor Cap
Distributor Rotor
Front Shocks
Rear Shocks
Front Brake disc left
Front Brake disc right
Rear Brake disc left
Rear Brake disc right
Front / Rear Pads
Ignition Wires - left
Ignition Wires - right
Hub Cap
Front turn signal lens - LT
Front turn signal lens - RT
Front headlamp lens
Air Filter
Oil pump to cam seal
Narrow v-belt, 9,5 X 684
Narrow v-belt, 9,5 X 694
Air box restraing strap
Air filter
Front Pad wear sensor
Rear Pad wear Sensor

Thanks in advance for your input...

-Wayne
Out of morbid curiosity, what is the cost of all of those parts combined?
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I am not sure I got the point here, you want to stock parts that you do not need immediately out of fear that they become unavailable? Is that it?
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I'll look through my boxes of spare parts and set aside all the 959 things.
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Gosh, Wayne, I feel bad for you. All this unwanted expense...I tell you what, I'll make you a deal...you deed the 959 over to me, I give you a dollar, and we both walk away happy..me with a 959, you without the headache of supplying unavailable parts for it. I think this would be a GREAT deal...
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