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eimkeith 06-15-2015 02:16 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Preston, there isn't one! The drivers were put in risky situations back in the day:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...34f9e4b842.jpg

Just the old bolt-in ST era bar, from the looks of it in this photo. :o


This build retains its 8 point cage, although the door bars are coming out for semi-regular use sanity.

keith.

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eimkeith 06-15-2015 02:22 PM

So over the weekend and the course of the day I was able to complete the dash.

I did prep, positioning, and cut in on the top of the dash over the weekend, then came in this morning, doubled checked my cowl position, and went at it.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...dcc390dd20.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...4e87d26954.jpg

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http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...bb75f1a867.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...2d42a18d2d.jpg

Dash resolved, I made the upper hole closing panel and interior kill switch/speaker cover (made this bolt in to give me wiring access later) and called it a day.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...0917d2eaf5.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...55c5c33cc9.jpg




keith.

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eimkeith 06-16-2015 12:31 PM

Nothing sexy or fun today; spent the day grinding off the residual stubs from removing the door bars.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...7da8d70b8a.jpg

They will no longer be in my way, so that's good.


keith.

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eimkeith 06-17-2015 07:23 AM

Wrapped up the center tunnel repair this morning:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...f195a1c150.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...2acab06dbb.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...9015d55daa.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...b415d9f976.jpg

I don't have a handy 'before' photo, but this car came in with a strange modification (hacked up) at the rear of the shifter opening.

Pretty interesting, I'll see if I can find a photo from when I cut in the donor metal several weeks ago.






keith.

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eimkeith 06-17-2015 01:01 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Good day today, got several things done.

I'd cut in the engine compartment rear crossmember corners and bump-ectomy last month, and was able to get those bits welded in and metal finished this afternoon to backdate the engine compartment:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...d91c0e9c6d.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...e0eccccb31.jpg

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http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...466192ed0e.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...ec4d1699e2.jpg

I was also able to get the ignition coil bracket installed and start on the RSR coil over reinforcements on the crossmember.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...87ce42a60e.jpg

The Mary Stuart RSR that we're referencing didn't actually run the coil over reinforcements (and in fact, it appears that the shock towers are raised on that particular chassis) but they are ubiquitous for the '73 RSR so in they go.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...747a17ad53.jpg


keith.

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John S 06-17-2015 02:37 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1434580607.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1434580636.jpg

Nice!

eimkeith 06-17-2015 02:58 PM

Thanks! I try to make it easy for the paint shop where I can.


keith.

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Shaun @ Tru6 06-17-2015 03:28 PM

Keith, beautiful work. What wire are you using? speed and voltage?

eimkeith 06-17-2015 03:48 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
.030 . I use that in both the 110 and 220 welders to reduce inventory.

Using the 110 at the moment, pretty close to the recommended settings on the inside of the panel.

I do run my gas high, though... Habit, mostly.


keith.

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Shaun @ Tru6 06-17-2015 03:53 PM

Interesting, thanks. I do my best sheet metal work with .024 but mistakenly got some .023 recently. I'll have to try it out this weekend. And get some .030 to see how that works.

eimkeith 06-17-2015 04:42 PM

.024 might be better, I've considered moving to that for the sheet metal but haven't had a chance to try it. (If I'm not billing, I'm not earning!)

Let me know how it goes, curious as to whether the warping tendency increases with the wire size (and subsequent heat increase.)


keith.

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Shaun @ Tru6 06-17-2015 04:49 PM

That's been my experience. Thicker wire, more heat = more warp, and more metal to grind down afterward. I can also move a .024 puddle much more smoothly than anything else. Have tried .026 and .028.

eimkeith 06-17-2015 05:40 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
I'm overlapping high heat short welds - some random burn-through, but better penetration and smaller HAZ for me than lower heat, longer welds. It's been the best route for me up to this point.

I'm open to suggestions, though, always.


keith.

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eimkeith 06-17-2015 05:42 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
What is tougher for me is replicating Porsche-welds where needed visually (strut tower braces, coil mounts, etc.)
Hard for me to transition to large hump continuous weld beads from sheet metal work, ;)


keith.

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eimkeith 06-18-2015 04:08 AM

Found the before photo of the unusual tunnel damage, just for posterity:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1434629257.jpg

eimkeith 06-18-2015 07:43 AM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Working on the catch bottle mounting this morning, which involved heavily cutting in the coil over reinforcement and then notching it to cradle the bottle (not necessarily historically accurate, but should provide a stable mount):

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...0dd58c566c.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...164a566477.jpg

I also drilled a locating hole to capture the leading tab on the rib under the washer bottle (a '72-73 washer bottle is used as the catch tank)

Still need to add the tabs for the strap, then move on to the driver's side shock tower reinforcements.

EDIT - here's the finished catch bottle mounting:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...ba6a65c7da.jpg

And here's our reference car:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/gtch1/10145734965/

keith.

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KTL 06-18-2015 07:49 AM

Keith,

Do also you plate-reinforce the underside of the shock tower where it connects with the frame rail? I've noticed this area shows signs of separation on cars running coilovers.

Thanks,
Kevin

eimkeith 06-18-2015 09:48 AM

Kevin; down here?

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...5b93e31d05.jpg

No, we haven't to date - just the tops/sides. Any idea what the spring rates are of those showing failure? Is it possible that ride height/shock length is causing shock bottoming?


keith.

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eimkeith 06-18-2015 12:32 PM

RSR shock tower/coil over reinforcements complete

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...e5c76a0390.jpg

The chassis to-do list is starting to get smaller!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...1a056a319c.jpg


keith.

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eimkeith 06-20-2015 12:04 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Got some contoured holes in the front bulkhead/firewall closed today.

(Didn't feel like getting covered with ground steel, so I'll do the metal finishing tomorrow or the day after on these)

Harvesting the contoured patches from the long hood donor:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...c535d58b15.jpg

Cutting in holes (trimming in to plug two unused holes on each side with one patch panel)

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...2ac366dc66.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...cf01ff2d4f.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...f7421ecc6d.jpg

And a couple of unused holes in the center while I'm at it.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...fb930b88fb.jpg





keith.

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