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PSportoVeloce 03-23-2008 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w21055 (Post 3845069)

I started stripping the trim around the windows to achieve the aluminum look that looks better IMO on the older cars. I did the drivers side pretty quick as the black paint was begging to come off.

I'm interested to hear about this process since i've been considering it for my own car. any tips about how to do it or pictures of the final result?

thanks,

derek

w21055 04-08-2008 10:09 AM

Derek,

There was no big ordeal in getting the paint of the trim on the drivers side. I started with Lacquer thinner and got nervous about it being so close to the paint, so I took a bondo spreader and the paint flaked off. It could use some polishing to make it look nicer.

Phil

w21055 04-08-2008 10:18 AM

Finally an update with some pictures.
I had to replace the windsheild after the debacle on trying to switch trim on both of my cars. I must have been extremely lucky (hard to imagine with how things have went with this car) as the windsheild install was a breeze, did it by myself in about 20 minutes. While the glass was out I painted the lip that the windsheild mounts in so it is good to go for a while.
Here are a couple with the h-4's painted to match.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../80scdriv2.jpg
You can also see the trim has been stripped.


I also decided to dye the interior to black from cork since I recovered the dash.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...4/int911dr.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../int911ins.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...4/intrear1.jpg

here is how the engine looked before and now (still some work needed here)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...j4/engine1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...j4/engine3.jpg

And to finish last week, I installed a new muffler I got from V8 Ranch from the board here.



More to come. The fender hunt has just stalled and it will probably look like this most of the summer.

Thanks for all the feedback and help so far.
Phil

Elombard 04-08-2008 12:43 PM

wow the dye job looks awesome? Does it look that good in person? Did you do a write up on the process?

The H4s just absolutly transform the car for me! I like how the stripped trim and stuff came out. Still think you should pull the rockers since you are going to do some paint work any way but it looks FAB!

I think I will own a 911 again next week! Its a project and I may need some help on the windshield!

w21055 04-08-2008 02:49 PM

Erik,

Just let me know. What year is it? Could not keep you away for long!
Thanks for the compliments, the interior looks pretty good IMO I was suprised. The doors look great, the rear panels do have a couple of "dry" looking spots that I have no idea what made them do that, but for now it works for me. I did not document the color change as I had seen several posts here and followed their advice.
On the windsheild I found on here that it was easier to go around the gasket with the rope two times and that made it easy to do because it really did not want to lay all the way down the first time around.

John-1977911s 04-08-2008 03:00 PM

It looks as though the steering wheel wrap has changed as well? It's beautiful now.
Did you do that and was it one of the kits?

Thanks.

John

w21055 04-08-2008 04:17 PM

I recovered the wheel with one of the kits from our host. ALGA or Allan Gunn was the name of it i think.

w21055 04-21-2008 01:54 PM

Fenders are paid for and should be here in a couple of weeks at most. Car has just been sitting as I have been in the road all week.
If anyone reads and knows this answer help me out. I did a search and not much came up.
If you use the rubber ties for the hood on a Short hood to long hood conversion, does the mount for the straps mount to the bumper? Just curious as I see so many with FG bumpers and I am certain I will go that route.
Phil

Doug&Julie 04-21-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by w21055 (Post 3874688)

I'll pose this to the group as a question as I don't want to alarm you, but...does anybody think this is not a safe seat-belt situation?

w21055 04-21-2008 02:33 PM

I will reply to it Doug. In that pic the bottom of it is not bolted down, so there is no resistance at all. Is that what you are pointing out?
I was rushing for the photo op.
Thanks
Phil

Maxhouse97 04-21-2008 04:32 PM

Phil,

I have a question about stripping off the black of the window trim - what exactly is bondo spreader? Is it a chemical? Where can you get it? Did you have to remove the trim, or did you leave it on the car while you stripped it? And finally, would you have been able to do the windshield if you hadn't ordered a new bright trim surround? I am thinking about doing this to my car as well. Great work!

Cheers,

w21055 04-21-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxhouse97 (Post 3899728)
Phil,

I have a question about stripping off the black of the window trim - what exactly is bondo spreader? Is it a chemical? Where can you get it? Did you have to remove the trim, or did you leave it on the car while you stripped it? And finally, would you have been able to do the windshield if you hadn't ordered a new bright trim surround? I am thinking about doing this to my car as well. Great work!

Cheers,


Bondo Spreader= Probably another more offical name but- It is just a plastic spreader. Sort of like a scraper they use to flaten sheetrock mud but pretty flimsy. Not a chemical but something easier on the metal than a screw driver or such.

I left the trim on the car around the windows. I taped off the paint and went at it. I did use a tiny flat head screw driver with some tape on it to flake off the small edge on the rear window.

You might can do the windshield trim without removing BUT I would not remove the trim and expect to put it back in without pulling the windshield out.
You would have to tape it off or use some playing cards (putting them in between the trim and rubber to protect the rubber)to allow you to get the paint off.

Thanks
Phil

Maxhouse97 04-21-2008 06:46 PM

So you basically scraped it off? Interesting.

Do you think you would be able to polish the window trim to match the windshield?

w21055 04-21-2008 06:58 PM

Not entirely sure about a perfect match, that new trim nearly glows. It could use some polishing.

I saw cnielsen's article in Excellence stating he stripped his trim and polished it on his ST so I gave it a try.

I will focus more time on it and see if I can get it to stand out more and post the results

cnielsen 04-21-2008 08:01 PM

Oven cleaner slowly dissolves the anodizing...then lots of sanding and eventuall a full polish...if that is what you are looking for.

Doug&Julie 04-22-2008 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w21055 (Post 3899472)
I will reply to it Doug. In that pic the bottom of it is not bolted down, so there is no resistance at all. Is that what you are pointing out?
I was rushing for the photo op.
Thanks
Phil

Ah, yes...ok, thanks. Carry on! :)

Deschodt 04-22-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w21055 (Post 3899399)
Fenders are paid for and should be here in a couple of weeks at most. Car has just been sitting as I have been in the road all week.
If anyone reads and knows this answer help me out. I did a search and not much came up.
If you use the rubber ties for the hood on a Short hood to long hood conversion, does the mount for the straps mount to the bumper? Just curious as I see so many with FG bumpers and I am certain I will go that route.
Phil


Yup... or you could use the special backdate fiberglass longhood made by 2 different people on the board, that lets you install a longhood that has the backing of a short one, and therefore keeps your SC hood catch. The catch is more theft proof than the rubber straps ! I've got TRE's, it seems nice, I'll share more info when it's actually test fitted. I'm repairing my early fenders for now... not there yet...

w21055 04-22-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 3901576)
Yup... or you could use the special backdate fiberglass longhood made by 2 different people on the board, that lets you install a longhood that has the backing of a short one, and therefore keeps your SC hood catch. The catch is more theft proof than the rubber straps ! I've got TRE's, it seems nice, I'll share more info when it's actually test fitted. I'm repairing my early fenders for now... not there yet...

Yep, that's why I am watching your thread to see how yours turns out.

Phil

PcarPhil 04-22-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by w21055 (Post 3901615)
Yep, that's why I am watching your thread to see how yours turns out.

Phil

I've got a Getty backdate hood and fenders on my longhood project. Check out the link in my sig if you want to see a few pics.

trconway 04-22-2008 01:29 PM

Back date Question
 
Phil,

I am no expert on back dating but what about the rear view mirrors?

Wouldn't a different type look better?

Just a thought.

Nice project.

Tom


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