Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 4.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
'89 930
 
1topcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ft Myers, FL
Posts: 452
Center Console Redux

Well, I am sure this post will get accolades and flames. I was really disappointed with the look of the center console and position of the shifter in the 89 930, so I took a little liberty at revising things. I removed the lower console and revised the shifter position with the shifter from Hargett. I tried to keep it in the same design theme in general but add a little aluminum to tie together with some of the other interior items. The first two are before pics followed by a few pics of the after revision.





The addition of the arm rest with a little extra storage and a retractable cup holder in the rear as well as a cup holder up front were things I couldn't resist. I know, I know, drive don't drink, but I cannot resist a coffee or a cold drink every now and then and hate the constant juggling act one has to perform. Also, the arm rest is nice on those long highway miles.






The auto heat was relocated forward and now consealed in the console with the control relocated to the console deck. The A/c controls are now reachable and the retarded 3 position fan blower ( never could select a position that was just right) is now a infinite selection rheostat. I am still in the process of relocating the flasher and defroster switches to the dash if they will fit at the cig lighter and blank locations.

Overall, I like the feel, form and function. I am still refining a few details to finish up. but thought I would post the current project nearing completion.

-Tony

Old 01-10-2009, 05:14 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,506
Well let me be the first to say it looks fantastic!!! Wow great job. What console did you start with? Fab your own? Detail man details!!!!!!!!!!
__________________
O2 In Sully We Believe
Old 01-10-2009, 05:19 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
GothingNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 3,532
That looks great !!

Now I'm getting the itch to change mine out.
__________________
John D.
82 911 SC Targa-Rosewood
04 Jetta TDI
05 Jetta GLI
Old 01-10-2009, 05:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
SCWDP911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Jackson, TN
Posts: 6,529
Garage
flamers be danged, man... loioks awesome. You really did do a fantastic job. v ery tasteful in my opinion. And you made itmore functional for you as you. Well done!
__________________
Shane

- Daily - 2004 Cayenne S
- Gone but not forgotten - 1983 Ruby Red Cabriolet
Old 01-10-2009, 05:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Vin-barrett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomfield NJ now Fernandina Beach FL
Posts: 1,118
Garage
wheres the e-brake?
__________________
-Vinny
1983 911SC
Old 01-10-2009, 05:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
'89 930
 
1topcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ft Myers, FL
Posts: 452
Thanks guys,

I started with a 964 console and recovered it with Black vinyl. Got it off evilbay for $40 but it was tan and tired. Cut the front tip off and created a new tip or end that would house just the a/c module and the auto lock module. The vinyl then covered my fab work. And the module with the defrost and flasher was deleted to relocate those to the dash.

The arm rest was actually a new part from a Suzuki that had the perfect dimensions and black color to work. It bolted down to the tunnel, carefully, and gave me a anchor point to hold the rear of the 964 piece while I fabbed a bracket right behind the ashtray to hold the front on the 964 console. Then I was able to fit in very thin plywood for the sides which really made everything solid.

I considered deleting the ashtray and making it swoop up to the knee pads but just too much trouble and I liked the way it kept the dash/kneepad clean looking.

The e brake is under the hargett and the auto heat was moved forward of the old shifter position. I extended the wires and the cable system, cutting a new hole in the tunnel (carefully!!!) for the linkage arm.




All together, the pieces weighed about 3 lbs and the shifters were about equal. The infill pieces were 1/4" aluminum sheet cut to fit the old fashion way (band saw, jig saw and file) (read: PITA) as I didn't have access to a cnc or the like.

-Tony

Last edited by 1topcat; 01-10-2009 at 12:22 PM..
Old 01-10-2009, 05:47 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered User
 
deshetlr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Highlands Ranch, CO
Posts: 521
Garage
Do you use the e-brake? if so how do you get to it. Beautiful work.
__________________
Scott
'86 911 Carrera Coupe, PCA, PBC
Old 01-10-2009, 08:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Mitch Leland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fredericksburg, Texas
Posts: 1,819
Garage
This looks like a project right out of the Industrial Design Department of the Art Center College of Design, great job. Are you saying that you have sacrificed the e-brake for the up grades of the rest of the design or is it still a functioning e-brake?
__________________
Mitch Leland
"03" 996 C2S-LS3 V8-480 HP
"84" 911 Turbo Look-Sold w/ found memories
Old 01-10-2009, 08:23 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
'89 930
 
1topcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ft Myers, FL
Posts: 452
It is still a functioning brake and I took a little slack out of it so the throw works with the hargett shifter, which Mark designed to be placed over the existing e brake. The auto heat controls had to be moved though. As for the design, yes, it can still be used. I have set it up for access on the right side where I would have to open a small access door which the carpet hides. It's kind of a hand hole and it works, but now there is one more step to pulling the brake; first you have to open the door panel.

-Tony

Right now, being in Florida, I have no hills or real need for its use, but I did not want to just delete it. I looked into hydraulic e brake kits so I could just have a switch, but I did not like the cons assoc. with that path. I am waiting to see how much I miss it before I modify anymore.

Last edited by 1topcat; 01-10-2009 at 12:22 PM..
Old 01-10-2009, 09:02 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: texas
Posts: 863
Garage
I have a blue 993 console in decent shape for $50 if anyone wants it.
Old 01-10-2009, 09:20 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,506
PM sent axl911
__________________
O2 In Sully We Believe
Old 01-10-2009, 09:23 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
sudo apt-get purge 930
 
equality72521's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Brandon, FL
Posts: 4,840
I have put off buying a Hargett because I can't stand the way it looks but now I know what to do. This is effing awesome!
__________________
Mark 1979 930 Euro ***GONE AND DON'T MISS IT AT ALL***

"Worrying about depreciation on your car and keeping mileage down is like not ****ing your girlfriend so her next boyfriend finds her more appealing"
--clutch-monkey
Old 01-10-2009, 09:38 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Registered User
 
Mitch Leland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fredericksburg, Texas
Posts: 1,819
Garage
Tony,

More Questions:

1. I think a good working e-brake sooner or later would be imperative. At least I couldn't get along without one here in the Hill Country. Pretty tough leaving an electric light with a 4X4 pick up on your back bumper without the help of the emergency brake. The problem I see is that you really need to be able to pull directly vertically on the e-handle to have it effective.

2. Do you like the Hargett shifter? I hope so after all of this...

3. Can you show some pixs of the relocated auto-heater control installation? Did you lengthen the piano wire cables and move the entire auto-heat module forward in the console?

Hargett should put this out as a "kit"... You've done an outstanding job of doing what the factory should have done in the first place, well when you work out the e-brake then it will be perfect...
__________________
Mitch Leland
"03" 996 C2S-LS3 V8-480 HP
"84" 911 Turbo Look-Sold w/ found memories
Old 01-10-2009, 09:44 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Bland
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 52,984
Garage
I have both accolades and flames...

Wow! What a great job! More pics?

If you only added 3 lbs. - no biggie.
__________________
Long Term Maintenance:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/189572-long-term-commonly-neglected-maintenance.html
Old 01-10-2009, 10:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
dshepp806's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Middle Georgia
Posts: 4,551
Garage
Nice.....it's what you wanted,..and THAT'S really all that matters.

Best,

Doyle
__________________
Recording Engineer, Administrator and Entrepeneur
Designer of Fine Studios, Tube Amplifier Guru
1989 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe
25th Anniversary Special Edition
Middle Georgia
Old 01-10-2009, 10:38 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
'89 930
 
1topcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ft Myers, FL
Posts: 452
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch Leland View Post
Tony,

More Questions:

1. I think a good working e-brake sooner or later would be imperative. At least I couldn't get along without one here in the Hill Country. Pretty tough leaving an electric light with a 4X4 pick up on your back bumper without the help of the emergency brake. The problem I see is that you really need to be able to pull directly vertically on the e-handle to have it effective.

2. Do you like the Hargett shifter? I hope so after all of this...

3. Can you show some pixs of the relocated auto-heater control installation? Did you lengthen the piano wire cables and move the entire auto-heat module forward in the console?

Hargett should put this out as a "kit"... You've done an outstanding job of doing what the factory should have done in the first place, well when you work out the e-brake then it will be perfect...
Mitch,
1. I completely agree, but like I said the biggest hill here in Florida I encounter is the 4 inch difference in elevation I have from my garage to the street Bahaha. I have tried pulling the e brake from the side and I can pull straight up. With the shortened throw, it works fine, its just I have to open the access panel which is about 2 inches to the right off the handle centerline. A little awkward indeed, but not all bad. In this design, just no other solution I have come up with. I'm not sure I get the 4x4 on the back bumper comment. However, I do have a awesome bright 8 inch wide by 3/8 tall LED strip brake light in lieu of the factory third brake light in the rear window. I have also added two more LED brake lights in the center reflector to each side of the center panel that says Porsche. I feel a lot better that people see my brake lights and the response time is quicker from when I apply brakes and they use less amps than the incandescents.

2. Yes, I have the Hargett for the G50 and I like it. It has taken a little bit to get used to, its accurate and the position is way more comfortable. Mede8er has the Hargett on his 915 and did not like it. It's a little different design than on the G50 and he switched to a Rennshift and loves it.

3. Yes, I lengthened the piano wire and the tubes that they reside in. With due credit to The Turk, the tubes were 6mm OD steel tubing and some .049" s.s. piano wire from McMaster. The tubes friction fit into the ends of the existing tubes and then you just stop them where ever you need, a few inches back from where the actuater lever arm is placed. I replaced the entire length of wire from one flapper box up to the control lever, twisted it around the lever like the original application and returned down the other tube to the other flapper box. I think I bought 20 feet of wire and 5 foot of tubing just to have plenty. Its pretty intuitive once you look at the original installation. Once I determined where I wanted the auto heat, I then cut a hole 1 inch wide by 2.5 inches long where the lever sticks down thru the tunnel to pick up the cables. EXTREME care must be taken to not drill or cut any of the many fuel or electric wires in the tunnel. A Strong light and a small mirror made that much easier. I was so consumed with making progress, that I did not take enough pics of those steps, but it was pretty easy. I used a dremel wheel for cutting and the entire module moved forward, has 4 bolt holes and needs some of the wires extended/spliced.





Last edited by 1topcat; 01-10-2009 at 12:25 PM..
Old 01-10-2009, 12:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Bland
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 52,984
Garage
I could see doing something similar on an early car with stock shifter.

It would run along the tunnel.

How did you create the curved vinyl radii? Or were they built in on the 964 piece you started with?
__________________
Long Term Maintenance:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/189572-long-term-commonly-neglected-maintenance.html
Old 01-10-2009, 01:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Recreational User
 
porschenut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: A Mile High
Posts: 4,153
That's very impressive! I would like it even more if you covered the shift lever with a 964 shift knob and leather boot - that would look very stock. And maybe a turbo script stenciled onto the aluminum in front of the arm rest.
__________________
'88 Carrera CE Coupe, '60 MGA 1600
'86 RS tribute, '86 targa, '97 993 C4S, '07 997S, '86.5 928 S
Old 01-10-2009, 01:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: beautiful San Diego
Posts: 171
PM sent

Quote:
Originally Posted by axl911 View Post
I have a blue 993 console in decent shape for $50 if anyone wants it.
pm sent
__________________
Brad
1983 911 Cabriolet (daily driver)
2000 ML 320 (Shared by teenagers)
2005 Pilot (Wife's)
Old 01-10-2009, 01:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Jack Olsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,228
That's really beautiful work.

The e-brake access issue is a drawback, I guess. But the thing that strikes me the most is that it makes it look (to untrained eyes, of course) as though the car is front-engined. In other words, a console cover extending that far back kind of suggests a driveshaft hump is being concealed.

But that's the look Porsche used in the later 911 iterations, and your implementation is -- if anything -- better looking than what Porsche did (in my opinion).

You ought to partner up with Mark, solve the e-brake issue, and start selling a complete kit.

Old 01-10-2009, 01:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:12 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2020 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.