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group911@aol.co 04-27-2015 12:21 PM

The 930 part has the large cutout for the a/c condenser ducting so you won't be gaining much.
Try either of the first 2

Gib Bosworth 04-27-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 8593702)
So you are referring to the tail on the white car.
On that picture of your latch support, it's a pretty good shot of the second grill backside but I'm not seeing all the holes for the grill. The fiberglass work looks factory. Can you see if the unusual support bracket is spot welded?


Here is a pic of the small grill opening. it had clips on the corners for screws, plus the center had holes as seen...one with what looks like what's left of a rivit.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430176375.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430176407.jpg

group911@aol.co 04-27-2015 04:39 PM

I'll see if I can get a good shot of that area.

bertj 04-28-2015 09:02 AM

Does anyone make a good reproduction version of this tail?

What about the rubber part?

Thanks,

Ferrino 04-28-2015 10:00 AM

There are reproductions of the tail, but the rubber lip has been NLA for a long time now - good luck finding a nice example. Whoever tools up to reproduce the rubber lip will probably do well, given the popularity of this tail. The approach I have taken is to use a one-piece tail where the lip is rendered in fiberglass and integrated into the main body - it can always be painted with a satin paint to mimic the original rubber, which is what I will try to do. I like the fact that I can repair fiberglass and repaint in the future, whereas the rubber lips tend to warp/sag and the metal spine inside them is prone to corrosion. I've also seen very few examples where the rubber seamlessly meets the fiberglass base.

This is the style of tail I am referring to:

http://www.f-s-h.com/contents/media/l_tk_107a.jpg
http://www.f-s-h.com/contents/media/l_tk_107c.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by bertj (Post 8598803)
Does anyone make a good reproduction version of this tail?

What about the rubber part?

Thanks,


sc_rufctr 04-28-2015 09:39 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430285951.jpg

This is the one I want but I don't think it got beyond the prototype stage.
(NOTE: The hooks and clamp. This is easily removable)

Has anyone seen one of these in real life?

Arne2 04-29-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrino (Post 8598901)
There are reproductions of the tail...

This is the style of tail I am referring to:

http://www.f-s-h.com/contents/media/l_tk_107a.jpg
http://www.f-s-h.com/contents/media/l_tk_107c.jpg

Where do you find the repro w/o the second grill opening? The only one I've seen lately has a small recess for the smaller version of the 2nd grill.

Ferrino 04-29-2015 08:33 AM

Betterbodies, down here in San Diego has a mold for the 2nd-grille-less tail, as used on the early Carrera. They don't advertise it on their website but I've seen it in their store and they said they could make one for $500. I have no idea what the quality/fitment is like.

Arne2 04-29-2015 09:55 AM

Hmm, I don't seem to recall much good feedback on Betterbodies stuff. But might have to chance it.

bertj 04-29-2015 10:23 AM

Thanks Ferrino.

Any other companies making a good reproduction of this tail?

Bert


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrino (Post 8598901)
There are reproductions of the tail, but the rubber lip has been NLA for a long time now - good luck finding a nice example. Whoever tools up to reproduce the rubber lip will probably do well, given the popularity of this tail. The approach I have taken is to use a one-piece tail where the lip is rendered in fiberglass and integrated into the main body - it can always be painted with a satin paint to mimic the original rubber, which is what I will try to do. I like the fact that I can repair fiberglass and repaint in the future, whereas the rubber lips tend to warp/sag and the metal spine inside them is prone to corrosion. I've also seen very few examples where the rubber seamlessly meets the fiberglass base.

This is the style of tail I am referring to:

http://www.f-s-h.com/contents/media/l_tk_107a.jpg
http://www.f-s-h.com/contents/media/l_tk_107c.jpg


Arne2 05-29-2015 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bertj (Post 8600516)
Thanks Ferrino.

Any other companies making a good reproduction of this tail?

Bert

The only other US supplier I've seen is GT Racing. No idea about quality, haven't seen one in person. It's molded for a dummy second grill, but the grill itself is extra.

https://www.gt-racing.com/products-page/911-tails-decks-and-wings/911-whale-tail/

https://www.gt-racing.com/wp-content...TR%20016-2.JPG

JQ911 05-29-2015 09:22 PM

Repro tail
 
Mine looks like repro from gt racing but i may be wrong. I just had the tail lip painted black so it would look like rubber:D

Oops looking at the pictures above mine did not come with 2nd grilles so definitely not gt racing. mine looks like weissach repros no markings since last time i checked

kristof 07-09-2015 03:14 AM

Hello

I have an original metal framed spoiler for sale, part number 911.512.010.07
In nice condition. Rubber lip restored with plasti dip rubber paint.

Original 1974 Porsche 911 Carrera 3 0 RS Spoiler Whaletail Spoilerdeckel | eBay

Also have a fibreglass aftermarket spoiler with small second grille. Later style rubber lip in very nice condition.

Porsche 911 Spoiler Turbo Spoiler Whaletail Ducktail | eBay

If interested, please inform for shipping costs (I am in Belgium - Europe)

Thnx
Kristof

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:27 PM

I thought i would add to this for archival purposes.... a few others to follow:

1976 930 Turbo Carrera with optional A/C (secondary vent is larger)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/EdIEsB.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/I5MGby.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/a4sPU4.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/23TZJQ.jpg

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:29 PM

1987 911 Carrera
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/dnDyY9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/vAjJdy.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/Gx8c9N.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/s2sXe2.jpg

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:33 PM

1989 911 Turbo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/BQrdJb.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/apebnD.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/uC913W.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/buE1oy.jpg

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:35 PM

1991 964 Turbo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/QnnCwD.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/nLnOF1.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/60v7L3.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/nMgmVh.jpg

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:36 PM

1993 964 3.3 Turbo S Leichtbau
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/xr56Oh.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/792elJ.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/YviZEi.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/SjbI7a.jpg

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:39 PM

1994 965 3.6 Turbo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/INM6qM.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/XacXNL.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/hzqlE6.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/s2Pe5V.jpg

TwinTurbo959 09-02-2015 05:41 PM

1996 993 Turbo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/u3siKm.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/N3xyO4.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/AefCYA.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/n68Xfh.jpg


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