The original OEM tail thread collective documentation

[Ferrino]

What's the difference between these 2 heat-shields? There are some subtle shape differences and I believe the top one is made of steel while the other is fiberglass? Does anyone have part numbers for each, please? Thanks!

Originally Posted by RatBox

Hello all,
By the by , I'm looking for a metal shield like this . If anyone can help me out , PM me .

**Note - must be this version :




NOT this one :

[group911@aol.co]

I don't think they were ever fiberglass from the factory

[Ferrino]

OK, thanks. Should there be a part number stamped on these heat shields?

[rsnodgrass]

Both are metal heat shields. The bottom version was tin snipped at the factory to provide room for routing AC hoses on the rear. This crude modification was done by the factory. I've only seen the tip snip modified heat shields painted black without any texturizing. The other style heat shield is typically body color painted.

[Ferrino]

Thanks rsnodgrass! OK, I see the "tin snip" modification now. I have the unmolested (upper) style and yes it's textured and body-colored.

[moparrob]

Has anyone ever figured out if someone has reproduced the wider RSR/IROC style rubber portion of the tail? Seems like it would sell very well.

Who is the vendor that makes the large quantity of rubber replacement items for our cars? Perhaps they might agree to a run...

[group911@aol.co]

The base is completely different between the two tails so unless you have an original tail, the larger rubber us useless.

Originally Posted by moparrob

Has anyone ever figured out if someone has reproduced the wider RSR/IROC style rubber portion of the tail? Seems like it would sell very well.

Who is the vendor that makes the large quantity of rubber replacement items for our cars? Perhaps they might agree to a run...

[moparrob]

Oh, I didn't know that. They looked similar at a glance. I guess I will stick with my whale tail.

[Roots]

I am doing a work on a 1977 930. Have been trying to find whale tale for it. Just purchased one but not sure if it is original. The original color is gold and it has been repainted. At the moment can not find any numbers on the piece other than ones one the first picture.

All the help are greatly appreciated.

[group911@aol.co]

Something is odd about it. The center bracket has been modified for some reason. Is your 77 a US version? Originally a/c? Your pictures didn't show up but this a link to them http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/ansman74/media/Jaettu/WP_20151007_08_35_01_Pro_zpsmw2ue62t.jpg.html

Originally Posted by Roots

I am doing a work on a 1977 930. Have been trying to find whale tale for it. Just purchased one but not sure if it is original. The original color is gold and it has been repainted. At the moment can not find any numbers on the piece other than ones one the first picture.

All the help are greatly appreciated.

[Roots]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

Is your 77 a US version? Originally a/c?

Car was originally taken to Japan. Whale tail is from a different car as my car has duck tail at the moment. Trying to take the car back to original shape with original turbo parts. Car had a/c from the factory. A/C is not present anymore due to weight reduction.

Maybe I find more numbers etc. from the piece when removing the paint. Just thought if specialist say for sure that it is not original then it is not worth doing any work on the piece.

[group911@aol.co]

The tail you have is incorrect for an a/c car. Sent you a message.

[911Freak]

That tail looks nearly identical to my factory non-a/c 75/76 930 tail

930 Part number should be on side support. Left side i think.

The tails are all firberglass so be careful sanding down paint looking for
Part#s.

Good luck. Hope this helps

[Dwerkz]

Originally Posted by 911Freak

That tail looks nearly identical to my factory non-a/c 75/76 930 tail

930 Part number should be on side support. Left side i think.

The tails are all fiberglass so be careful sanding down paint looking for
Part#s.

Good luck. Hope this helps

They are not all fiberglass,i have a few wich have a metal base and a poly top
These cary a 930 serial stamped on the side
Then i have a few that are total poly which have a 930 serial in the middle brace.
It looks to me the arico wings(big grill) have a metal base and the non airco(small grill)
are most of the time total poly.
Thats at least the case whit the ones i have

[group911@aol.co]

Nice exploded view of a complete assembly found here;
76 77 Turbo Carrera 930 Tail OEM Spoiler

[Cornerlot]

With several asking the question, but no definitive answers, I'll ask again. Were there any factory ALL FIBERGLASS early whale tails? Ones with the OEM separate rubber lips.

[group911@aol.co]

I don't think so but never say never.
It would seem logical that if the factory had made one and it worked, they would have made the rest that way. It's a much simpler process.

[Dwerkz]

Originally Posted by Cornerlot

With several asking the question, but no definitive answers, I'll ask again. Were there any factory ALL FIBERGLASS early whale tails? Ones with the OEM separate rubber lips.

I do not think so,as posted a few back.
From what i have in my hand here.
-The early ones whit small secondary grill(non airco) totally poly 930 serial in the middle brace.
-Second production,metal base,bigger secondary grill for arico and condenser,930 serial on the metal base side part.
I have 4 early and 3 metal base ones and all have this pattern.

[panzerfaust]

I'm looking for an early rubber lip 3.0/930 tail with no second grill or small second grill

Anyone have for sale?

Regards pf

[1973tbry]

I just bought a 911 that came with turbo tail. Part number 930.512.010.00 stamped on the metal center support.

Can anyone tell me what year and model this tail is from?

It is not correct for my 69 911S so I am going to replace it although it is in very nice shape.
Thanks for the help