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Just recently picked up a car that has an all fiberglass small second grill tail. Rubber is there but needs some love to line it all back up. Found a part number on the support last night. What is the consensus, does it look to be genuine?
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I vote no.
No provision for mounting a wiper. No provision for the engine bay light. Center support looks to be 'customized'. Bill K
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Looks just like other factory tails earlier in this thread. Part number seems correct. If you look back you'll find others just like it.
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Looks very similar to my factory wing. Same Euro spec: small 2nd grill, no wiper provision, same latch mount etc. Remember, these particular wings were only made for the very first Euro "Turbo Carrara". 1975-1977. From what I've read in factory PET (posted in this thread as well), and speaking to some Genuine Porsche folks who were around at the time these are the real deal.
Regardless, nice wing, clean it up correctly and enjoy or sell to an early turbo owner?
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I don't think so.
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The real deal of that tail.
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One thing that gives me pause is the fact that you have a part number stamped in the center latch support and it appears to have a Porsche trademark symbol. Is that latch support made of steel?
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That's an all-fiberglass tail and it looks authentic to me: the Porsche part number stamped into the gelcoat of the central structure looks legit (correct script etc.). Can you fake a part number? Sure. But you can also do the same with a metal-framed tail, so why aren't folks questioning the authenticity of all tails? I've seen quite a few tails (real and aftermarket) and one of the distinguishing features is the fit of the rubber to the tail. In the real-deal tails the fit is excellent, with not major misalignment of the rubber and fiberglass surfaces. With a lot of aftermarket tails, if they have not been worked on significantly, there are lots of big gaps at the seams.
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A lot of the repro tails are vintage. Mitcom starting selling them in 1975 when the 930 Turbo first appeared. |
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I think the Porsche parts symbol is what separates the replicas from the counterfeits...
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I have an all fiberglass repro non-A/C tail w/ the small secondary grill hanging in my garage and it has the Porsche part # and Porsche part symbol. Pretty good quality like most fiberglass tails are but no comparison to the fit and finish of the Porsche factory original non-A/C tail on my 1975 Turbo. In addition to the lack of a metal base, most repros lack the heat shield attachment points, functional secondary grill ducting, light mounting, rear wiper attachment points, and wiper hole opening.
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That part number sure looks nice and crisp and even. If that's actually molded into the fiberglass gelcoat, they did a damn good job.
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OEM or aftermarket?
Geniune or not? It's a single grille version..
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Can you strip that tag and see what that's about?
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That 'tag' appears to be the remnants of the welded tabs for the under-lid engine bay light.
Someone chopped the light out with a Dremmel cut-off tool along the bare edge on the right. I removed the light from the underside of my 85 lid and that's what I was left with - I had to use a grinder to remove it. Bill K
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I've never seen a light mounted on the side support
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I stand corrected.
I just checker my 77, and the light is screwed directly into the fiberglass-under-tray with two sheet metal screws, about an inch inboard from the rail. Bill K
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