This is gonna be good.
Way to go Grady.

I think its pretty amazing that this thing has been found. and in one piece at that.

Great read! For some reason I didn't pay attention to the thread for a while, but today I felt compelled to have a look. Amazing. I have learned more about the four cam engine in the last ten minutes than I have in the last 45 years of my life. Grady, your knowledge is simply stunning. You should write a book.

I have to say that there were quite a few of you in here who just made me shake my head in embarrassment for the forum. You are so quick to judge. Let me point out something to you guys: there are quite a few people in this world who are not necessarily forum savvy in a modern sense and who may in fact be very distrustful of providing much information at all, ie location, name, etc., to total strangers, such as yourselves - especially after the insults were thrown his way, as if he were some child. We all appear to be lucky that he didn't just run away from this forum.

If it were not for Grady, this person would've been gone eventually - run out by you.

Grady, thanks for running with this and for encouraging Uber to contact you.

Fortunately, some of the most stinging comments were actually very inside-baseball to the forum - references to instances in the past when we got stung. Likely, Uber did not understand those references for the stinging criticisms that we forum veterans understand them to be.

Perhaps someone could recap, in a short paragraph for each instance, what happened on this forum with those two earlier trust-wrecking incidents. I know I would appreciate the tutorial. I think it would also go a long way towards explaining why sometimes we react poorly to stories that sound too good to be true at first blush.

To be fair, Uber hasn't exactly been forthcoming with information or details. It took multiple requests of "where are you located" before a reply was made. The magic "how did you come in possession of this engine" still hasn't been answered. I think the second or third post after the engine made CLEAR that he had a 100k motor on his hands, if that was me, I would be a little more engaged.

I just went back and re-read the whole thread. IMHO I don't see anything that is overly critical or inappropriate. Skeptical or half joking sure.

So on a public forum, when someone asks very cryptic questions, followed by more cryptic photos and doesn't bother to answer some of the basic questions, people will be skeptical.

At this point, it seems that Grady believes it is real, so hindsight is 20/20.

I sure hope that Uber can find the car that came out of and sell it for a mint to benefit his economic situation.

If this is true, and if the details ever get out, I bet it gets picked up by other media - Japolink comes to mind. At least that way Pelican (Wayne) will get some benefit for subsidizing this forum and Grady will get some props for the expert he is...

Good luck

Jack

no one with a potentially valuable item should be overly forthcoming with information or details - I agree that many comments put this entire bbs in a bad light.

I suspect that a recent flood of juvenile posters has caused that - one needs only to look at the off-topic area to see how low some people are. Some very interesting people have stopped posting or reducing their answers to questions in the last year or so, apparently b/c of such juvenile behavior.

I'm glad to see the 4 cam info above, and look forward to more from Uber, Grady, John Cramer and others. Thanks to all of you for the substantive posts.

I will simply say that given the number of "too good to be true" posting on this site made simply for a reaction, this one was intially pretty hard to swallow. This is the Porsche equivalent of finding a unicorn, which makes the story all the more unbelievable at first blush.

As this settles in, you'll have noticed the snide comments have ceased and has turned into a damned good read.

As always Grady - thanks for the education

Thank you Grady!
 

Grady,

It is an absolute pleasure to read what you have to say on this forum. SmileWavy

Thank you, and please keep it coming!

Man, what a cool story this is!! I mean to find someone who has a gem of Porsche engineering, and to see the discovery and connection with the good people on this forum!

I love this kind of thing and I'm really psyched to see it come together!

Kudos to Grady and to Uber for sharing this very interesting discovery! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif

Cheers,

- Craig

So were the flywheels on the cams necessary for the same reason the crank has a flywheel? Why not just add more mass to the crank flywheel?

Grady~ You are treasured by the members of this forum! Thanks for jumping in, and getting to the bottom of this amazing story!

I'm very relieved to see this has turned out to be legit, rather than another hoax. This was so far out there, so far into the realm of "too good to be true", that I was very, very skeptical. This just has to be a "once in a lifetime" find. You are a very lucky man, uber. Even luckier that you found Grady, and that he lives nearby. Good luck, and please keep us posted as this unfolds. I think a lot of us are living out our fantasies through your good fortune. We'll be waiting with baited breath for any news.

Unlike type 912 motors from the Porsche 917's, there were scores of four-cam Carrera engines made over the years and many of them were separated from their original chassis due to the maintenance and reliability issues cited above, so I wouldn't classify this as a "once in a lifetime" event.

It's still really neat that one of these motors has turned up and that the finder thought that Pelican was a good place to inquire about it. I love to hear the stories from the not-long-ago days when this country had about half as many people in it and Average Joe's like us were picking up worn-out race cars for beer money because they weren't competitive any more. The Monterey Historics and Mille Miglia storico came along and made them valuable again and now even worn-out junk is subject to endless skull-duggery on behalf the well-to-do and to hoaxes such as those we've seen recently here on this forum and elsewhere.

I look forward to hearing more about where this motor started life and how it came to rest where it did.

+1 Jack

Nobody asked for his address , social security number or license. He had the time to reply but did not answer questions that would have silenced all the naysayers. Or take a couple pics? why place a white sheet behind it?? Did he steal it? Anyway glad he did get in contact with an extremely knowledgeable individual so it will be interesting to hear the story as it unfolds.

In the likely event that a real 4 cam doesn't drop into one's lap , there is always this!

1:8 scale Porsche 356 Carrera 4 four cam engine model

I suppose these end up in corporate offices somewhere.

I just found this thread, WOW.

Supposed to see Grady tomorrow for coffee. I know that the topic of discussion will be! :eek:

Does Uber's engine run?
Does it sound this sweet?
Porsche 356 Registry: Video of Carrera 4-Cam Engine on the Dyno

Thanks for that. I've never heard one run - until now.

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