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wow i hope my 78' targa isnt that hefty.... def see what an 2nd scale says.....

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My '84 targa is about 2800lbs with a full tank, not including me. I've given up on this weight reduction shtick... I can keep up with any of the newer NA 911s just fine on the street.
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Well I took the spare tiire and jack out, weighed them - 38 pounds. So I took them out. If I go on a longer drive, i'll pop them back in. But don't need them for around town I guess.
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Most scales like those at a landscape company don't need to show an accurate actual weight, just be accurate between two readings, drive the empty truck on, drive the full truck on, difference is the weight of the load. If you want an accurate weight you need to get your car weighed on a set of corner scales.

My 86 with a 96 3.6, fiberglass front and rear bumpers, sun roof bits removed, all the other stock stuff still in and roll bar added weighed 2807lbs when corner balanced, with a tank of gas.
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My SC weighs 2720 without A/C. I expected a couple of hundred less. It does have a nice sound/nav/bluetooth system, but that can't weigh much.
It's 98% street, so I won't obsess.

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At times it amazes me when people say..."especially with my fiberglass parts". Lessee.... steel panels maybe 3 mm thick vs fiberglass of 1/4"-1/2" thickness, depending upon where measuresd and what the pieces are. Early Corvettes weren't exactly lightweight either. This is not see-thru "race" fiberglass you have there. Same with aluminim and steel rim wheels. Cast Aluminum is awfully thick compared to a pressed structural steel wheel.

Gotta look at all aspects of "weight".

We spoke seats for a moment. My 85 stock power seats weigh an incredible 55 lbs each. 110 lbs for a set. Two shell-type buckets might weigh 14 lbs each for a nice total weight savings of 82 lbs.

Steely spare with collapsable spare is pretty weighty too.....
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That's darn light IMO. My Euro spec '76 Ferrari 308 is 2900lbs with a small amount of fuel. Short of removing a/c equipment and using lightweight seats, I can't see how to shave down a ton more weight. I have no idea how on earth Michelotto got these things down to 2300lbs let alone the k lbs you Porsche guys see regularly! Amazing
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Does anyone know what the sunroof motor and all those bits weigh in at?

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Does anyone know what the sunroof motor and all those bits weigh in at?

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Does anyone know what the sunroof motor and all those bits weigh in at?
A lot... I forgot the exact #, but it is significant., and all that weight is in the wrong place.... High on the chassis, effectively raising the CG...


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At times it amazes me when people say..."especially with my fiberglass parts".
Or you could talk to the manufacturers of the fiberglass/carbon/kevlar replacement parts and find that you can buy it in differing weights.. i.e. race or street.... and some of the makers can move the wheel arches up so you can slam a car really low....and so on and so on

Yes some of the crappy glass is equally as heavy as the steel it replaces....
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Does anyone know what the sunroof motor and all those bits weigh in at?

Chris
The motor and cables really don't weigh much, it's the sub-roof and panel that is the big weight. Cut that out and bond in a CF panel and it's a worthwhile savings.
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At times it amazes me when people say..."especially with my fiberglass parts". Lessee.... steel panels maybe 3 mm thick vs fiberglass of 1/4"-1/2" thickness, depending upon where measuresd and what the pieces are. Early Corvettes weren't exactly lightweight either. .....
My fiberglass hood is 7 lbs. The steel one is 47.
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Of course....when the pieces are roughly the same thickness in steel and glass....notice I said.." depending upon where measured and what the pieces are"

I doubt most replacement 'glass body parts for street use are made to original steel thickness, perhaps other than hood and deck lids.
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Its not the size of the boat its the motion in the ocean!.
Is it not fair to say that many should concentrate on their driver skills before trying to lose weight to make them faster. I used to race bikes and many were so preoccupied with having the lightest of equipment and ignored a lack of conering ability or correct gearing or the extra 5 pounds they had from eating too much
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I went down the path of pulling every little thing out of my Carrera...what you end up with is something that is maybe a bit quicker in the butt dyno but a fair bit noisier, hotter, and less comfortable on the whole. Unless you're doing a dedicated DE car with limited street use, or a flat out track car, just leave it alone. I can't stand driving mine to work when its hot because there is no A/C and no cats on the exhaust; you show up hot and stinky at the office. Yuk.
I agree. I made the mistake of taking out 75% of the A/C components, one because they were old, and two, because I was reading about shedding some weight, going quicker. My bad!

The way it sits its plenty quick to shred the local speed limit, but I drive it a lot less because its so dang hot and humid in the summer. when I get the time the A/C will be rebuilt with new components and put back in. It's really hard to look cool when your sitting at a traffic light and you have sweat pouring down your forhead.
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Thanks for the reply on the sunroof. I'll search out how it's done. End of hijack. Thanks guys.

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I seem to remember 40 something pounds for the sunrood, the panel and associated hardware.

it's really not the weight so much as it is the location - High and can have a bigger influence on the CG

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