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911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

Thanks Grady.. That is very helpful. I will check it out and see what I find out.

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

Hello everyone. im going to try to keep this thread updated with things I have learned from all the great people here on the forum so the other new 911 owners can learn as well.

The gas sitting in the car is 2 years old. So i will be draining and cleaning the tank. I originally was thinking about the Eastwood product to do so since I have always had steel tanks in the past. I got this bit of info about 911 tanks. see below.

absolutely don't use the eastwood products in your tank it has a plastic swirl tank in it and the sealer wont stick to it and flake off and clog up your tank and the etch will destroy the swirl tank

Also flushing the tank is a good idea and just do so with hot water but make sure you blow it dry and get all the water out when you are done.

I just wanted to thank all the friendly, knowledgeable, and great people here that have been more then helpful with my questions!

more to come....

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

Drained the gas out of it tonight. aprox 13 gallons of some very varnished looking 2 yr old gas. Now im trying to find a place that will take old gas. Ill be pulling the tank out and cleaning it up in the next day or so.

Is there a way to bench test a fuel pump that anyone knows about? Id hate to put it all back together fill it with some gas just to find out I have to pull the pump out.

dhagood · dhagood's Garage

to my imperfect knowledge, the only people with the skills/tools/permits/knowledge to deal with old gasoline are your friendly purveyors of new gasoline. which is to say: oil refinery.

if there aren't any in the atlanta area, see if one of the gas transport outfits will take it. gasoline loading docks all have facilities for capturing and storing old/improperly mixed/contaminated gasoline, see if they will take it.

whatever you do, don't just dump it out on the ground. that stuff is really evil; gasoline is the most toxic substance most people will ever have access to.

burn it if you have to, but don't dump it.

G50-Love · 06-06-2011, 08:10 PM

just filter the old gas and add a gallon or 2 to the tank of another car with each fillup

gsmith660 · 06-07-2011, 03:24 AM

Pull the pump out anyway and bump it with power on the bench if that is your clunk it will not run on the bench and you will have your problem solved.

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

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Originally Posted by dhagood

to my imperfect knowledge, the only people with the skills/tools/permits/knowledge to deal with old gasoline are your friendly purveyors of new gasoline. which is to say: oil refinery.

if there aren't any in the atlanta area, see if one of the gas transport outfits will take it. gasoline loading docks all have facilities for capturing and storing old/improperly mixed/contaminated gasoline, see if they will take it.

whatever you do, don't just dump it out on the ground. that stuff is really evil; gasoline is the most toxic substance most people will ever have access to.

burn it if you have to, but don't dump it.

I agree, that is why im trying to find an appropriate place to dispose of it. I went to the fire dept, think they might want it to practice burn something but they are not allowed to do that anymore. Too dangerous he said. I guess they dont need pratice putting out a gas fire. If you live in Ga pray you dont have one!!! The fireman seemed to think it was dumb too.

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

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Originally Posted by gsmith660

Pull the pump out anyway and bump it with power on the bench if that is your clunk it will not run on the bench and you will have your problem solved.

Im def going to do that and keep my fingers crossed that its ok..I guess while im on the subject, how do 911s react to non OEM or rebuilt parts? Is it one of those things like my audi that you just have to suck it up and by the factory stuff or it wont work right? What does everyone think? I hope im not opening a can of worms with that one.

Flat Six · Flat Six's Garage

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Originally Posted by 911lvr

Im def going to do that and keep my fingers crossed that its ok..I guess while im on the subject, how do 911s react to non OEM or rebuilt parts? Is it one of those things like my audi that you just have to suck it up and by the factory stuff or it wont work right? What does everyone think? I hope im not opening a can of worms with that one.

I think it depends on the part(s), really. IMHO, there are some parts where some aftermarket items are on par (and less costly) or superior to OEM, such as:

Brake rotors and pads
Ignition wires
Suspension bushings
Shifter/shift linkage components
Steering wheel & shift knobs
Others will chime in with many more, I think

Other items are designed and built so well that even a quarter century later they're still among the best items available (I'd put Fuchs at the top of my list in this category), and buying good quality pre-owned OEM is a no-brainer.

I haven't seen to many rebuilt/refurbished major components offered (besides, say, alternators, master cylinders, and some brake calipers) but suppliers like PP do offer a number of kits or individual parts to help you rebuild your own.

Based on the scope of work you've posted about the plans for your car, I'd suggest putting together a list of the items/systems that you want to refurbish and search the forum by category (brakes, ignition, exhaust, and so on) and for each major item decide:

a) what kind of replacement you prefer [new OEM, new aftermarket, refurbished, pre-owned, rebuild yourself]

b) what you're willing to take if the price is right [same list], and

c) what you're not willing to consider under any circumstances [same list]

I took (take) this approach, and it helped me immensely when shopping for parts.

HTH

Dale

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

Thanks Dale. I kind of thought there would be more input on that topic.

anyway, the tank is drained and out of the car. i looked inside it with a mirror and it looked pretty good. I didnt see any rust. I pulled out the fuel filter and now im just waiting on parts from our host to put it back together and see what happens.

On a side note I think I figured out what my clunk sound is. The fuel pump was not attached to anything besides the hoses. Apparently the bolt holding it in place fell out of they never put it back in. Anyway, I think that when the pump got power and started to spin up it smacked into the bottom of the car making the "clunk" noise I was hearing. Im waiting until the fumes die down before I test my theory now that I can watch it. Dont really want to have a fire in the garage. All my best things are in there!!! LOL I also found out this car was the green color as you can see by the pic. Does anyone have a diagram of how the fuel lines go in this car? I dont have the bentley manual yet. Im assuming in a simplified version it goes tank to pump, pump to filter, filter to accumulator and accumulator to FI. So if I take the feed line to the filter and blow compressed air thru it it should blow thru to the front of the car. im trying to avoid blowing more crap into the FI.

On the belly pan there was a little hitch hiker. He seemed lost in GA.

Doesn't something go here??? LOL.. check the green. should I go back to it when I get it painted?

ben parrish · 06-08-2011, 03:22 PM

YES on the green!!
As someone said, filter the gas and add a few gallons along the way to your tank to burn it up...might also add a little stabil to it.

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

ok.. I got parts todays.. woo hoo.. I got the new fuel filter in place and then I put power to the fuel pump. unfortunately nothing happened. it didnt move, make any type of whirring noise at all. As a matter of fact all that happened was it got hot so I removed the power from it. I would assume based on that, the fuel pump is frozen. Would you agree? Anyone, know where I can get a fuel pump in ATL today or tomorrow?

thanks

Flat Six · Flat Six's Garage

If you need something on really short notice *********** dot com is in Marietta . . . I'm in SoCal so I don't know if they allow local pick up but you might try.

911lvr · 911lvr's Garage

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Originally Posted by Flat Six

If you need something on really short notice *********** dot com is in Marietta . . . I'm in SoCal so I don't know if they allow local pick up but you might try.

Thanks

gsmith660 · 06-10-2011, 12:26 PM

Yep that pump is toast be sure and flush all the fuel lines out real good since you have it broke down this far and inspect everything to make sure you don't have any hoses going bad.