I make Parallel Flow Micro-Channel Condensers for 911's front and rear

[KelogGes]

Regarding Patent Pending

Respectfully to anyone reading this, and/or those ho missed what I said here before about these subjects;

I am not stupid; I have Federally recognized and approved Patent Attorneys for my products who advise me; they have specifically also advised to say as little as possible both publicly and/or privately, which I have!

Therefore you can consider ANY discussion whatsoever related to Patents or Technical Engineering Design aspects, etc., related to my PFC’s "CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION"!

Kindest regards,

Reid

[KelogGes]

I have been contacted by several different model 911 owners local to me in south Florida recently who want my PFC's installed and their A/C system upgraded to make their 911s finally cold and will be having Stokes Automotive a well known and respected Porsche repair shop here doing the custom installs & repair work and will start publishing them soon with pictures and discussion

[ewave]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

Regarding Patent Pending

Respectfully to anyone reading this, and/or those ho missed what I said here before about these subjects;

I am not stupid; I have Federally recognized and approved Patent Attorneys for my products who advise me; they have specifically also advised to say as little as possible both publicly and/or privately, which I have!

Therefore you can consider ANY discussion whatsoever related to Patents or Technical Engineering Design aspects, etc., related to my PFC’s "CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION"!

Kindest regards,

Reid

So Reid, it would appear that you have not actually filed a patent as your "Patent Pending" claims would imply. Any (competent) patent attorney will tell you claiming "Patent Pending" without actually having a patent application on file is illegal, and you could be fined for this claim if it is false.

Or could you actually supply us with the patent application number?

[KelogGes]

I standby everything I have said here!!!

Paul it is obvious you have come here with an unprovoked adversarial agenda including a chip on your shoulder and for some unknown reason have inferred I am a liar and/or on top of this you have tried to bully me to give you or expose to others, what I have told you was confidential information that is to be considered private information!

You appear to me to be insulting, disrespectful and rude!

I am not going to divulge any technical information here related to any specifics of my technologies or patents pending to you or my competitors; I created this thread sometime ago for the purpose as stated from the beginning and included what discussion here is considered OFF TOPIC which you are violating even after a warning YOUR COMMENTS ARE OFF TOPIC

[EarlyPorsche]

Ok moving on...

Quick question: I like the idea of the AC filter. Can you elaborate what its intended purpose is to you? Guessing to keep particles from seals/compressor out of the compressor but what does it do to pressures?

[zippy_gg]

Reid, have you firmed up your prices for the front condenser, rear condenser, and evaporator, separately and bundled?

[wwest]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

I standby everything I have said here!!!


Drive by Mudslinging, resemblance to a stalker, just sling the poop, hoping something will stick appears to be your Forte,

Paul it is obvious you have come here with an unprovoked adversarial agenda including a chip on your shoulder and for some unknown reason have inferred I am a liar and/or on top of this you have tried to bully me to give you or expose to others, what I have told you was confidential information that is to be considered private information!

You appear to me to be insulting, disrespectful and rude!

Well Mr. Drive By BS internet lawyer you open your mouth insert foot like you think you know something about Patent law from something you read on a web site and infer I am a liar; it is apparent you know nothing about the depth of the full content of the Code of Federal Regulations

You are on a Fool’s Errand & I AM NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT!

I am not going to divulge any technical information here related to any specifics of my technologies or patents pending to you or my competitors; I created this thread sometime ago for the purpose as stated from the beginning and included what discussion here is considered OFF TOPIC which you are violating even after a warning YOUR COMMENTS ARE OFF TOPIC

I told you I have a team of legal representation and I don’t play games, it seems you want to play

I AM NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH PEOPLE HERE LIKE YOU!

I suggest you carefully consider these words before you open your mouth related to me again;

libel/slander/defamation/lawsuit=legal action

PS: FYI I ALSO saw what you originally wrote here to me and kept a copy for my records before you edited out your original words to me

When what you're selling is PURE snake oil you will always have to find some way to refute the TRUTH.

[Porchcar guy]

Guys, this thread started almost a year ago and to my knowledge, not one Pelican has put this system in their car.If I am wrong, someone please chime in on how it is working !! People have asked direct questions and have yet to receive direct answers...Reid...good luck to you...

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by Porchcar guy

Guys, this thread started almost a year ago and to my knowledge, not one Pelican has put this system in their car.If I am wrong, someone please chime in on how it is working !! People have asked direct questions and have yet to receive direct answers...Reid...good luck to you...

Howdy Porschcar guy thank you for taking things back on topic


Your question is a very good one and I am VERY glad you asked this!!!

It’s a bit difficult to answer because its complicated, but I will the best I can so you and others will finally know almost everything that's been going on since last year

If you notice the last 2 NAYE Sayers here have said I have had my products for sale here, which was news to me >Grin> absolutely not true!!! It amazes me the people that open their mouths & completly say false things because they are intent on misleading or their are to lazy to read.

If you have read my posts since I starting writing this tread about a year ago, I have never said ANYTHING WAS FOR SALE YET!

There have Intentionally been NO SALES OFFERED YET HERE AT PELICAN for several good production reasons, HOWEVER THIS IS FINALLY ABOUT TO CHANGE

But there have been a few sales (that did NOT originate here on Pelican) to 911 owners THAT LIVE LOCAL TO ME IN SOUTH FLORIDA, and one OTHER that happens to be a very well known Porsche A/C component supplier I am sure you know of but that I cannot give out their name because we have LEGAL confidentially agreements.

You have been here a long time and I would imagine you have read much I have written instead of being someone new here

From your reading you should know that everything I make is custom handmade; what you probably don’t know is how difficult to hand make the PFC’s without damaging them and I have spent a ton of money this last year going through welders that could weld the very thin aluminum componentss satisfactory without damage, for a cost that is low enough to make it worth it to manufacture; and only until recently have I completely overcome these production problems to make the manufacturing worthwhile and cost effective.

All Last Year here after my first few different versions of prototypes were made and successfully testing on my 911 & I had written about here; I have had approximately a total of 40-50 pelican people contact me here seriously interested in buying from me, but I kept intentionally putting them on hold & telling them to wait until I was ready to begin production & begin taking orders for shipment.


Bear with me I am still writing & editing this and will try to finish my answer to you today or tomorrow

Kind regards

Reid

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by wwest

When what you're selling is PURE snake oil you will always have to find some way to refute the TRUTH.

HELLO...''' STOP TELLING LIES THERE'S BEEN NOTHING OFFERED FOR SALE HERE!!!

The only snake oil here are the pot calling the kettle black with ZERO A/C KNOWLEDGE promoting their E-BAY CHINA FANS for 911s owners in the desert

You keep posting off topic garbage here again tryng to cause trouble; after I have warned you to knock it off! You have been doing this to me for almost a year now, apparently its time for the forum moderators

[brads911sc]

Reid,

If I may make a couple suggestions. There are many of us who would be in the market for a variety of AC components. Ignore those that question your ability or intent. They have proven to say things that show how clueless they actually are, there is no reason to respond. They only lower your credibility when you respond. I have a great system. Almost entirely Griffiths. I do use the ZIMs fender condenser and I do use the Rennaire Procooler. I am happy with its overall performance. The one thing I think would be of interest (to me) is a front fender mounted set up similar to the oil cooler but on the left side along with a ZIMS/Griffiths style rear fender condenser that together would replace the deck condenser which would lower oil temps when ambients are over 90. Not sure why no one has done this. Maybe there is a technical reason it wouldn't work. I think that the deck lid condenser and engine temps remain a weak link for all AC component companies, Griffiths and Rennaire included. I think if you focus there, you may have a market. Perhaps you should do a separate online poll. I probably would not be interested in a state of the art deck lid, as it would just add even more heat to the engine bay.

The other suggestion i would make is that you start a new thread once they are in final production mode, with tech specs, tests results installed on a real car using the final production model, tested at 92 degrees or higher ambient, using the exact kit you will sell, so users dont need to scroll through 16 pages to get to the bottom line. Good luck to you..

Guys, give the guy a break. You think Griffith designed all his top notch products that everyone swears by in a few months. There have been years of R&D and many tweaks along the way. Lets see what the guy can do. If you don't want to buy, then don't.

[scottb]

I've actually spoken with Reid on the phone, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until his R&D is finished and products are in service in "real world" situations (i.e., DIY installs, local shop installs, etc.).

Here's my suggestion: Reid, once you've got all of your parts ready for manufacture and/or sale, send a full set to a Pelican (I'll volunteer) and let him install them in his car and run some independent beta testing and report back to you and the community. If the products are as good as you claim them to be, then some "real world" testing would (hopefully) put the naysayers to rest.

My $.02.

[wwest]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

Howdy Porschcar guy thank you for taking things back on topic


Your question is a very good one and I am VERY glad you asked this!!!

It’s a bit difficult to answer because its complicated, but I will the best I can so you and others will finally know almost everything that's been going on since last year

If you notice the last 2 NAYE Sayers here have said I have had my products for sale here, which was news to me >Grin> absolutely not true!!! It amazes me the people that open their mouths & completly say false things because they are intent on misleading or their are to lazy to read.

If you have read my posts since I starting writing this tread about a year ago, I have never said ANYTHING WAS FOR SALE YET!

There have Intentionally been NO SALES OFFERED YET HERE AT PELICAN for several good production reasons, HOWEVER THIS IS FINALLY ABOUT TO CHANGE

But there have been a few sales (that did NOT originate here on Pelican) to 911 owners THAT LIVE LOCAL TO ME IN SOUTH FLORIDA, and one OTHER that happens to be a very well known Porsche A/C component supplier I am sure you know of but that I cannot give out their name because we have LEGAL confidentially agreements.

You have been here a long time and I would imagine you have read much I have written instead of being someone new here

From your reading you should know that everything I make is custom handmade; what you probably don’t know is how difficult to hand make the PFC’s without damaging them and I have spent a ton of money this last year going through welders that could weld the very thin aluminum componentss satisfactory without damage, for a cost that is low enough to make it worth it to manufacture; and only until recently have I completely overcome these production problems to make the manufacturing worthwhile and cost effective.

All Last Year here after my first few different versions of prototypes were made and successfully testing on my 911 & I had written about here; I have had approximately a total of 40-50 pelican people contact me here seriously interested in buying from me, but I kept intentionally putting them on hold & telling them to wait until I was ready to begin production & begin taking orders for shipment.


Bear with me I am still writing & editing this and will finish my answer today

Kind regards

Reid

I guess it's hard for some of us to separate MARKETING instead of SALES, or even MARKETING with the clear expectation for closing future SALES.

We're NOT idiots, stop treating us so....."it's complicated.."

China "made"...like that PC you're typing on....?

[wwest]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

HELLO...''' STOP TELLING LIES THERE'S BEEN NOTHING OFFERED FOR SALE HERE!!!

The only snake oil here are the pot calling the kettle black with ZERO A/C KNOWLEDGE promoting their E-BAY CHINA FANS for 911s owners in the desert

You keep posting off topic garbage here again tryng to cause trouble; after I have warned you to knock it off! You have been doing this to me for almost a year now, apparently its time for the forum moderators

Like you (god, that hurts), I'm not SELLING anything, maybe, inadvertently, providing some marketing of Ebay...

But unlike you, it seems a number of Pelicans have tried my "suggested" solution sucessfully.

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche

Ok moving on...

Quick question: I like the idea of the AC filter. Can you elaborate what its intended purpose is to you? Guessing to keep particles from seals/compressor out of the compressor but what does it do to pressures?

Short Question but requires long answer

Very Good and Very Important Question!!! I have waited almost a year for someone to ask about this since designing my A/C Filters!

I completely agree with your guess, so let’s take this further into a bit more detail

It’s unfortunate most people don’t know or understand about the IMPORTANCE of having a/c system protection filters so I would be happy to inform you.

Your early 911 a/c system has NO FILTERS AND PEOPLE RARELY HAVE THE COMPRESSOR OIL CHANGED, and the compressor is the main moving part of your a/c system and it wears out in the similar ways as your car engine does.

However your car engine has a good liquid oil filter and without this oil filter and regular oil changes and proper maintenance your car engine would not last very long, and it’s the same as you’re a/c compressor. Most people’s cars a/c compressor never get serviced until they stop working then people are forced to spend a lot of money to replace them, except all the newer ones which all now usually have a/c system filters.

First I want to say that every major a/c component manufacturer more than strongly recommends that all a/c systems should have these filters installed to protect the a/c system and there are several reasons why they are needed; FYI ALL THE NEWER A/C SYSTEMS PROBABLY HAVE THEM!

Furthermore I always strongly recommend using 2 special inline filters not just one with my PFC’s. But using only one inline is far better than NONE!
My PFC’s have fairly small holes in the micro-channel tubes compared to older technology condenser tubes

Second Because you probably do not know what is in the refrigeration and A/C TRADES called “A/C BLACK DEATH” and/or “REFRIGERATION BLACK DEATH” IS? You might want to try to Google it, and enlighten yourself to learn about this terrible phenomena that is more than likely in time, going to completely ruin your entire 911 A/C SYSTEM, and when it happens to you the cost to PROPERLY REPAIR IT, it’s GOING TO SHOCK YOU TO SAY THE LEAST! WHEN and if BLACK DEATH happens to you and it more than probably will. Black Death happening to your a/c system does many VERY BAD things to the entire insides of ALL of the refrigerants components the gasses internally pass through in most cases DURING THE phenomena of BLACK DEATH essentially destroying THE COMPONENTS to never again be as efficient as they were again! This basically means they will more than probably never again without replacement be able to achieve the lower temps they use to

A/C SYSTEM BLACK DEATH IS THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN TO YOUR A/C SYSTEM; you may have smelled a refrigeration system BLACK DEATH in your local markets or convenience stores when food shopping and not known what it was. It has to be the most god awful smell that reeks throughout the store lf the converted gases come out of the refrigeration system into the air, and this smell does not go away easy even after the refideration system has been repaired.

Special A/C line filters CAN GREATLY help prevent BLACK DEATH from occurring and/or if it still happens there is a much stronger chance various components can be salvaged and specially cleaned and reused.

NOTE: I have decided I am going to require anyone who ends up buying my condensers at least initially at this time, that they must also install one of my custom made $50 special inline filters (“None Sight Glass”) type, if they want any kind of warranty for compressor or system failure by damage to the compressor; as I am not going to open myself up to getting sued for any metal particles that might be tried to be blamed on my PFC’s.

Furthermore not using proper a/c system filter protection is really stupid and none of the early 911s never had any proper a/c system filters, and its time they did!!

Now back to your question you asked me about “particles from seals/compressor out of the compressor” !!!

Any Particles whatsoever contaminating the refrigerants gas and lubricant can develop into major problems and will be commonly found over time due to increase rapid mechanical wear degrading usually emanating or emulating from inside your compressor if you look carefully doing yearly or by-yearly proactive preventative maintenance with compressor oil change, Then there are the various types of seals either from inside the compressor, or from emanating or emulating from inside and through other various component parts that will more than likely soon lead to system breakdown and NO A/C,
NOT to mention the additional cost of repairs labor and parts all that could been very well avoided for many years by installing special A/C Line System Protection Filters

And your last question; “ but what does it do to pressures? “

Special inline a/c Filters should have no affect on pressures whatsoever !
Unless because there is/was/has been, so much excessive crap and debris within the refrigerants line passage way do to either a component failure and/or about to have a failure; or someone has injected severely contaminated refrigerant; and the filter DID ITS JOB IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO AND WAS COMPLETELY OVERWELMED WITH MASSIVE DEBRIS AND CLOGGED THE FILTER! NOTE: IF THE A/C FILTER/filters becomes completely clogged for any reason you will not have any cold coming OUT OF your air vents at all

Let me say this, if you have unusual pressures and everything seems to be working properly and/or your not sure about anything, the first thing you should always do is suck out the refrigerant and fully inspect the filter and then always clean it and reinstall it, vacuum the a/c system properly reinstall the proper amount of refrigerant and start the a/c system back up again, then re-check the pressures again which should tell you how good your a/c system is now working or not working. You may have just found out your a/c filter just saved you a large headache

This was not in your questions so I will add it,
You also do not have high and low safety cut out switches on your early 911 a/c system, that disconnects your compressor clutch that turns the shaft of your compressor or turns its off for safety reasons if the pressures are too low or too high and I would recommend you add these too to further protect you’re a/c system!

Best regards,

Reid

[911 tweaks]

what brand do you recommend and/or where can we get the a/c line filters & a/c hi and lo safety cut out switches...??
Thx, Bob

[wwest]

Did freezers and 'frig's of >40 years ago have refrigerant filters...? Mine seem to be still working so they must have. I know of at least 4 LS400's, a '91, 2 '92's, and a '95, all with well over 200K miles, that still have fully functional A/C systems. Plus a couple of air-to-air heat pumps that were installed back when the house was built in the late 70's.

Yes, compressor moving parts wear, but the resulting "fines" settle to the bottom of the reservoir and stay there.

Comparing a gasoline engine's oil contamination with a SEALED A/C system strike's me as a bit of a stretch....

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by wwest

Did freezers and 'frig's of >40 years ago have refrigerant filters...? Mine seem to be still working so they must have. I know of at least 4 LS400's, a '91, 2 '92's, and a '95, all with well over 200K miles, that still have fully functional A/C systems. Plus a couple of air-to-air heat pumps that were installed back when the house was built in the late 70's.

Yes, compressor moving parts wear, but the resulting "fines" settle to the bottom of the reservoir and stay there.

Comparing a gasoline engine's oil contamination with a SEALED A/C system strike's me as a bit of a stretch....

The whole business seems like a stretch. The oil filter for AC is LOL-funny, but an interesting idea nonetheless.

The whole bit about the patent and "not selling" and all kinds of claims - I think that Porsche owners would be better served by going with someone who has been there for Porsche AC upgrades for a long time, and has a proven track record of excellent customer service.

Reid's sales pitch is, as the kids say these days, weaksauce.

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by 911 tweaks

what brand do you recommend and/or where can we get the a/c line filters & a/c hi and lo safety cut out switches...??
Thx, Bob

Hi Bob,

I have custom designed my own A/C filters I use in relationship to the PF condensers I make; I am not sure what to tell you about A/C FILTER BRAND?

As far as the hi and lo safety cut out switches goes I get mine from a major A/C distributor near me, they are commonly availible; however you would have to also get a filter dryer that has addional connection port fitting for the pressure switches.

[911 tweaks]

thx...can you post or email me pics of the filter & its cost...Thx, Bob