I think it's time to start a new thread......

Everyone isn't agreeing with you in this one. :)

New Design PF Evaporator, High Speed Blower and modified housing with 4 INCH Opening
 

New Design PF Evaporator, High Speed Blower & Motor and modified housing with 4 INCH ID cabin air inlet into the smugglers box & evaporator cover and much higher cabin air vent flow

THIS new design also encompasses a Variable Orifice Tube Valve instead of a thermal expansion valve and which is much colder even at idle than a normal orifice valve

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These components designs are part of "THE TAN SWAN's" nearly completed new technologies 911 A/C 30 DEGREES SYSTEM which will be published soon

"which will be published soon"

Who cares about what is published soon....

When will YOU have something for SALE????

How much does this weigh and what parts does it replace? I am considering removing my AC because I don' use it. I would be interested in a light weight version that works. I also would interested in heater blower that defrosts and removes condensation. Will your new blower perform better than the stock version?

Completely Modernized NEW Technology A/C System Announcement Early Model 911
 

Five New Custom A/C Systems Engineered Designed Manufactured and Properly Installed For Very Happy 911 Owners

All MY A/C Systems Get Extremely ICE COLD TEMPS In The 30s F @ 95 Plus F Ambient Using 134A

Chief Engineer Reid Kelly


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THE TAN SWAN
Completely Modernized NEW Technology A/C System Announcement Early Model 911

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NOTE: I NEVER NEED MORE THEN ONE FRONT AND ONE REAR PFC's ON 911 A/C SYSTEM!

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THE TAN SWAN's "Completely Modernized NEW Technology A/C SYSTEM"

IS FAR MORE then using my latest PFC's !

The gases are being controlled in new ways never before attempted or imagined !

Among several other new technology components and enhancements!



I will post more pictures and more details in the coming days

Warmer weather must be on the horizon......

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"New A/C Technology" announced in 2011 . . . . and again in 2015!

Kelogges:
Your stuff looks interesting as one-off components, but I remember you implying that you were making these to provide for members of the forum. Any truth to that concept?
Thanks,
Dave

Do you have a website? Where does one buy these?
Thanks,
Dave

Completely Modernized NEW Technology A/C System Announcement Early Model 911
 

THE TAN SWAN's "Completely Modernized NEW Technology A/C SYSTEM"



I will post more pictures and more details in the coming days

OMG - Did I really just spend an hour reading this drivel bull***** only to find out that there is nothing new to be gleaned from all of this. I will never recover that lost hour of my life, and I could have watched the 40 Years of SNL which I recorded. At least that would have been somewhat entertaining and equally as informative .......

The Tan Swan A/C Project
 

The 911 had been the Owners Father's
Who took it to his home after he bought it; to the US Pacific North West and it remained for many years until his death.

The Tan Swan was purchased used; by the father from the original 911 owner many years ago. It originally had an A/C system installed, but it no longer worked ever again. There is not much need for A/C in the Pacific Northwest so I guess it was never used, or repaired to be functional because of the expense.

However the Father drove it regularly over the years

(The father had 2 young sons that were babies who grew up with the Tan Swan and the oldest is now the main Owner of the Tan Swan and in his 40s and shares ownership with his younger brother)

The father greatly enjoyed this car during his lifetime I was told by the owner! It originally had a 2.7 engine that gave good service for many years. But a year or so before father died he upgraded the engine to a newly rebuilt and modified 3.6 Liter and transaxle combo update.


The Owner (The oldest Son) lives here in South Florida and shipped the car here after his fathers death.

The Owner had heard about me and my new technology 911 A/C system designs and the success I have had with several 911's and making them super cold and decided he wanted my Revolutionary A/C System Complete Modernization of Everything.

At first I did not know it used to have an A/C system installed or ever had one, but I later discovered it did. Everything related to the original A/C system had been removed. Except for only 2 very short refrigerant pieces of hose that were cut off that were internally hidden in the body that you could not see easy.

The smugglers box had been completely jury-rigged and I guess the father or someone cut into where the evaporator used to be and put in a 12 volt D/C really small kind of a bizarre heater; including through the firewall. One of the oddest installations I have ever seen to say the least. Later properly repairing this installation damage would make this the most difficult project I have ever worked on.

These pictures are how it was delivered and I first saw it. ouch OMG!

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I love the expanding foam in the smuggler's box. Good luck.
Dave

Completely Modernized NEW Technology A/C System Announcement Early Model 911 INSTALL
 

Repairing the cabin damage and modifying the body to allow for the increased diameter size over stock of the 911 air intake AND ENLARGING THE OUTPUT AIR VENT and input ducts to accommodate the greatly increased CFM

Repairs to the smugglers box from the abortion hack job; and greatly increased the diameter of the evaporator intake and the body sheet-metal hole to accommodate the greatly enhanced air flow volume for the new larger evaporator blower that greatly increases CFM (cubic feet per minute) of enhanced air flow by several times the Behr oem blower and let the A/C system breath A MUCH HIGHER AIRFLOW


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The airflow in and out holes were enlarged to accommodate the new high CFM blower fan allowing this system TO HAVE SOME REAL BALLS!

THE INCREASED AIRFLOW IN AND OUT OF THE CABIN AND THROUGH THE EVAPORATOR IS INCREDIBLE COMPARED TO A STOCK SYSTEM

The stock blower has two intakes. It looks like you are covering one and making one bigger. Is that a net positive?
Looks promising.
Thanks for posting.
Dave

This early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal !!!
 

A FEW OF THE HIGH LIGHTS OF THIS NEW TECHNOLGY EARLY MODEL 911 A/C SYSTEM

The early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal

The only parts that were PORSCHE OEM WAS THE EVAPORATOR BOX AND IT WAS HIGHLY MODIFIED to suit my needs for an evaporator box that fit the body

THE SYSTEM HAS for example,

Modified VoV orifice valve injecting refrigerant into the evaporator and a custom modified Receiver Tank

Special Higher capacity CFM Blower for the evaporator

Highly Modified and Fully Insulated Porsche oem Evaporator box, to fully accommodate Special Higher capacity CFM Blower; increased cold air intake and exhaust openings and multiple level sealing and air rerouting, digital temperature controls

Special Higher capacity CFM Blower; for the front condenser; mounted in front of the battery; and into the body

Custom designed Front PFC condenser, that is also custom and fully shrouded and encased

Custom designed Rear PFC condenser

Control of refrigerant gases in new ways never done before

This New Technology 911 A/C System is designed to reliably run in the 30’s F. @ 97 F without freezing up and it’s been fully tested to the complete satisfaction of several very picky Porsche critics

I will upload more pictures and description in the coming days

So you screwed yet another unknowing owner!

Any Pelicanites running this system? I'm not reading through 41+ pages of this mess.

I for one, one day will put in AC since living in central TX, but I'm installing myself.

If I can't buy it and install myself, Vintage Air is getting my money.

This early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal !!!
 

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MODIFIED VOV ORIFICE VALVE
Smart VOV™ (Variable Orifice Valve)

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EVAPORATOR BLOWER ALMOST BUT NOT QUITE FITS UNDER THE SMUGGLERS BOX COVER

YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH BIGGER THE MOTOR IS AND THE Squirrel-cage rotor BLOWER IS OVER BEHR OEM
THIS PUPPY REALLY MOVES SOME AIR !!!!!!!!!!
CFM IS MANY TIMES THAT OF BEHR OEM CFM


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Call Charles Griffiths at GTI and discuss with him your goals and budget. He'll figure out a way to get your car nice and cool inside.

Griffiths | Porsche Air Conditioning - Engine Components

I would never buy anything from Reid.

This early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal !!!
 

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FRONT HIGH CFM BLOWER FITS IN FRONT OF THE BATTERY AND ATTACHES TO THE FRONT BODY

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CUT OUT FOR THE HIGH CFM FRONT BLOWER AIR


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FABRICATION STAGE FOR FRONT CONDENSER CONTAINER SHROUD AND SEALING

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FRONT CONDENSER CUSTOMIZATION FABRICATION COMPLETED AND INSTALLED

I doubt that anyone could.

This early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal !!!
 

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FRONT CONDENSER ROCK GUARD INSTALLED; NOTICE HOW TIGHT MY NEW DESIGNED FRONT CONDENSER FITS THE BODY EVEN WITH THE THICKER SHROUD
NOTE: THE AIRFLOW WITH THE NEW BLOWER THROUGH THE FRONT CONDENSER IS INCREDIBLE AND REALLY MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE BOTH AT IDLE AND AND SPEED with THE NEW HIGH CFM FRONT FAN

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YOU CANT TELL FROM THE ANGLE OF THIS PHOTOS BUT THE FRONT CONDENSER SITS COMPLETELY INSIDE THE BODY GIVING GOOD GROUND CLEARANCE

front condenser enclosed encapsulated exotic shroud designs
 

NOTE: The front condenser pictures emit and do not show the details of shroud inner workings

I don't want this published just yet as they are very exotic shroud encapsulated designs to say the least

Yeah. You need to be very careful.
Dave

thank you dave

Reid,
I think your work is beautiful. It's kind of a tease to keep showing us your progress with the implication that "you make parallel flow condensers for the 911" when in fact you just make one or two prototypes. They are great. If you just said "here is what I have built", then nobody would have any expectations, and they would also admire your work, as I do.
Good luck,
Dave

THE TAN SWAN early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal !!!
 

REAR CONDENSER INSTALLATION

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THIS LAST PHOTO ALSO SHOWS THE NEW COMPRESSOR
IT WORKS OK BUT ITS NOT MY FAVORITE TYPE

PLUS NOTICE; IT SHOWS ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE BACK UP UNDER THE RIGHT SIDE DECK LID HINGE THE CUSTOM VOV ORIFICE TUBE'S SILVER EXPANSION EXPANSION TANK. AN EXPANSION TANK IS NEEDED WHENEVER AN ORIFICE VALVE OR VOV VALVE IS USED; TO PROTECT THE A/C COMPRESSOR from exploding caused by liquid GETTING INTO in the compressor; because ORIFICE VALVES dump so MORE LIQUID REFRIGERANT AND IT GETS PAST THE EVAPORATOR !!!

911's normally only use TX or thermal expansion valves an therefore don't need

I have a hookup there, so will ultimately probably go there in the future. But, this micro stuff has me wondering if it's better, smaller, and lighter.

Annoying no questions get answered by the originator.

^^^ This is the OP's m.o. and one of the reasons he gets a lot of flack thrown his way (his holier than thou attitudes, and over-the-top salesmanship of something he refuses to sell, are also significant flack generators, buttofcourse). At least there is an endless source of humor to be found in these threads!

Frustrating as I'm interested in the technology of it (or lack thereof :))

Two years ago, I was going to install my a/c system. This yahoo was starting to advertise his stuff. I wished it was real. It was not. It still is not. Don't hold your breath. The guy is a big time obvious bull****ter.
Forget about him.
Dave

THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS DAVE
For my PFC's they are no longer just a prototype they are a finished product and have been for about 2 years. I am just kind of picky who I decide to sell them to or make them for.

I have gone far beyond just my 911 pfc's

This Tan Swans new technology A/C SYSTEM was completed as a prototype about a year ago, I just never published until now. I also did another called A/C System the Black Swan.

I discovered something really incredible when I was almost done with the Black Swan, I have only told one person about this, who uses my technology in his Porsche shop; it has to do with the control of the gases on an early model 911. After I actually show him he was blown away.

I can't decide if I am going to release it to the world or just keep sitting on it?

But this TAN SWAN HAS IT

never mind

Keep sitting on it, please.

Please.

OK Reid,
I guess I understand. It's your product. But if you want to show it around, why would you tell everyone they can't buy it. Kind of makes you look like a flim flam man.
Sorry,
Dave

Porsche Crest THE TAN SWAN early model 911 a/c system is a new high tech animal !!!
 

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Below Dash Blower Air Vent damage replacement prototype


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95 F plus Ambient; Vent temps in the 30s; Humidity 90 %

THIS A/C SYSTEM WILL RUN MUCH COLDER BUT IT WAS THOUGHT BEST TO SET MINIMUM TEMP AT ABOUT 37-38 DEGREES F

WHEN VENT TEMPS ARE QUICKLY IN THE 30s the cabin temp soon after starting the engine with A/C ON QUICKLY drops; FAR BETTER THEN WHEN IT IS HIGHER! THIS IS WHY I DESIGNED THIS CAR TO GET SO COLD, AND IT EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS!

THE CABIN Air in any car is sometimes at first somewhere between 160-180 F or higher, just sitting in the sun parked;

On the TAN SWAN after you first open the door sit in the seat and start driving, its usually within a few blocks or less you are not sweating, then a mile later or so you will need to turn the temp up on this A/C System so you are not cold on this early model 911.

The colder and faster in minutes/seconds any A/C System drops the hot ambient cabin air the faster you don's sweat.

This is one ICE COLD 911, i have never seen or experienced another that gets cold this fast including even a brand new 2015 model

I am very happy how well this A/C System works to say the least !

Most Important the owner is very happy with his new 911 A/C investment!

Reid,
You do beautiful work.
Why would you set the minimum temp to 37 degrees? Those are decent vent temps at 70 mph, but not spectacular.
Anyway, keep up the good work. I have already built my a/c system, so I am just an appreciative spectator.
Thanks,
Dave

BTW Reid,
When I say you are a bull****ter, I don't really mean it in a bad way. I simply mean that you really like to talk about your stuff and show lots of pictures of your stuff.
Good luck,
Dave

SilberUrS6 IS Another Charles Griffiths at GTI TROLL SHRILL

HAS NOTHING TO OFFER BUT OFF TOPIC ADVERTISEMENT FOR Charles Griffiths at GTI OBSOLETE TECHNOLOGY

HE AND TROLL SHRILL wwest ARE IN EVERY SINGLE THREAD HERE WITH ANYTHING SAID ABOUT 911 A/C