News flash...local mechanic drops ??? in intake

[ynotony1966]

He said he doesnt know how it could have happened, I think gravity had something to do with it. is he responsible for damages?

[tobluforu]

Of course he is, especially if he admits to it, what has happened to the motor?

[Neilk]

I saw your other post. Did the engine run and then die right there at the shop?

[ynotony1966]

yes it ran than died, he said he would pull everything and see what happened, damn i miss my car

[924CarreraGTP]

That shop would be paying to rebuild my engine.

[ynotony1966]

anyone with advice on how to proceed?

[fastfredracing]

Man, I did it once, I was putting head gaskets on an 5.4 triton f 250. Got all done, and could not find one little 8 mm nut, for the air intake. Fired right up, ran good for about 15 seconds, and then Ka fuchin' boom. Man did it break. smashed a piston, broke off the intake valve, and actually cracked the one cylinder. I had to buy the guy a motor. It was my fault. That was a tough call to make to the customer, but I made it right, and truck is still running good 5 years later. I thought about turning it into my insurance, but just sucked it up. Instead of making a grand, I lost $1500.00 and got to work 2 extra days for free. Mistakes do happen, we are all human after all, it is how we deal with our mistakes that count.

[ynotony1966]

no crack boom bam, just stopped running, he said, maybe it fixable?

[nineball]

i would have my motor rebuilt by someone i could trust and make the first guy pay for it, but that's just my opinion.

[steely]

Originally Posted by ynotony1966

anyone with advice on how to proceed?

Maybe someone here will give you a more informed/ better approach, but it's an engine drop and head removal. Hopefully you know the cylinder #. Valve/rocker and cam inspection. The item could have gotten smacked around and scored the walls and head. Pics are good.
Were all small parts accounted for - or did they not say?
There are some examples here you could search for - not for the feint of heart.
All fixable however. Best of luck to you mate.

[dad911]

If there is any metal in the oil, I'd be looking for new lines, cooler, etc also.......

At a minimum I would want a written agreement that the shop will fix properly, and I would want to be there when he pulls the engine apart. And if this isn't a shop with alot of 911 rebuild experience, I'd be looking for a check, and bring it elsewhere.

You have opposite goals. He wants to fix it as inexpensively as possible, and may overlook oiling system, rods & rod bearings, etc. You want it fixed correctly.

[ynotony1966]

I just got off the phone with my insurance co and was told that if something fell into the intake that caused the condition to occur that it would more than likely be covered as an accident, requiring an investigation to determine the cause, if it were water or an animal it would not be covered, I left a message on the shops phone to not touch it, as he was going to disassemble on monday

[john walker's workshop]

the shop should have insurance to cover it, if it turns expensive. if they owned up to it and were going to fix it, why mess with them?

[ynotony1966]

I dont think the shop has the expertise to do an internal engine repair

[brads911sc]

This is where it gets ugly...

[Neilk]

Originally Posted by ynotony1966

I dont think the shop has the expertise to do an internal engine repair

Couple of questions-
Why did you need to replace the intake gaskets and why did you bring it there if they are not qualified?

It sounds like they want to fix their damage, but like dad911 said, they have opposite goals than you do. Is there any way to get another person to look at the engine for you? Good luck.

[Gunter]

What was dropped into which intake????????

A tool? A nut/bolt? A beer cap?

[ynotony1966]

no one knows whats in there, I told the guy not to touch it until the ins. co. does its investigation, where is Superman when you need him

[Laneco]

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop

the shop should have insurance to cover it, if it turns expensive. if they owned up to it and were going to fix it, why mess with them?

+1. The shop owned up to their mistake. Many shops would not have. With caution of course, I suggest that you proceed in the direction of good faith. That may involve their insurance company, perhaps moving to another shop etc. I'll know I'll probably take a beating for making this suggestion, but there are still honest people out there.

This mechanic's admission of this misfortune probably puts him into the "honest" category.

angela

[tazzieman]

Happened to me ...they (reputable shop) dropped a small washer into cyl#6. But they admitted there was a problem (after they cranked the engine) , used a borescope to diagnose the faulty cyl , pulled the motor and disassembled the cylinder. Piston crown had a small ding but otherwise I was lucky. Put it all back together and there has been no issue.

Of course they footed the bill for the labour. Stuff happens. Surgeons leave scissors inside people!
I hope your foreign body was small and any damage is limited. Good luck!