What type of Crest in this ?

[rothaus]

The hood crest I have from a '68 912 I parted out. It was not mounted, just found it together with some other stuff.

I have never seen one like this, they are nomal gold, black and red. This one is gold, black and white.

[racer]

Likely just faded.. or repainted at sometime.

[rothaus]

So nothing special.

I see that it looks almost like the one somebody sells bead blasting and paint them black, strating out with this



Here is the ad, looks nice, I may do that.

Refinished OEM Black Hood Crests / Badges

[GWP911T]

+1 on the fading

BUT, out of curiosity please post a pic of the back of your badge.

[ossiblue]

Disagree on fading. No way the original orange bars will fade to white. The black and white appear to be in very good condition compared to the background metal and do not show the same effects of aging. The white bars at the top do not appear to be smooth and glossy like factory orange enamel and the partially exposed undercoat on the bottom bars are not factory as the orange is consistent through out the inlay.

Agree, nothing special.

[rothaus]

Here is the back side. The front look like somebody started sanding and run into the crest at the lower left corner, and then removed it. Will see what it looks like once it's stripped. Would soda blasting take off the coating or paint ?

[dcjones56]

I looked at Porsche classic and it appears to be something like this
Manifold Emblem - Porsche Crest - Porsche Classic - Driver and I am thinking it is a manifold emblem for a 928. I hope this helps or at least sparks the debate. As an attorney, I love to stir the pot.

On second thought, the back of the badge does have a "901" and thus is most likely not a 928 part, but it sure looked like it on Porsche classic. I am interested to hear others chime in on this one. Is it just a faded emblem? Or is it the original color (white in place of the red) and was put onto a 911 somewhere? Very interesting!

[blucille]

I have one like this, too....it's old, 901 on the back, very funky...I'm away from home but will post a photo soon

[ossiblue]

I've never seen the manifold emblem shown in the link but I don't think it is held on like the hood badge--with pins and speed nuts. Also, the manifold badge is basically a "reverse negative" of the hood crest, with the horse, antlers in white instead of black and the background for the words in black instead of metal.

The pins on the back of the OP's badge look to be relatively new in that they are mounted very cleanly with no solder showing. An early badge that is old enough to have faded the orange to white would probably have pins that show the soldering. (Notice I emphasized the term probably as there are always exceptions to rules of correctness with these cars. I'm not an attorney but I still like to cover my a$$ as if I was.)

Don't know if Porsche ever had a black/white crest but, for now, I'll stand by my statement that the one shown is not a faded orange crest.

[dcjones56]

Originally Posted by ossiblue

I've never seen the manifold emblem shown in the link but I don't think it is held on like the hood badge--with pins and speed nuts. Also, the manifold badge is basically a "reverse negative" of the hood crest, with the horse, antlers in white instead of black and the background for the words in black instead of metal.

The pins on the back of the OP's badge look to be relatively new in that they are mounted very cleanly with no solder showing. An early badge that is old enough to have faded the orange to white would probably have pins that show the soldering. (Notice I emphasized the term probably as there are always exceptions to rules of correctness with these cars. I'm not an attorney but I still like to cover my a$$ as if I was.)

Don't know if Porsche ever had a black/white crest but, for now, I'll stand by my statement that the one shown is not a faded orange crest.

I agree, the orange/red had not faded and turned white. That was originally white on the emblem. And I do not think it is a 928 manifold badge either. Hopefully, someone will come forward and enlighten us.

[GWP911T]

I'm not an expert, but want to mention another possibility is that it was an original badge that had been customized. (pic taken from another thread regarding a German ebay seller).

[intrepidagent]

I understand that this thread is four years old however I just saw it while surfing the forums. We refinish custom hood crests (and have had many happy customers here....thanks!) and utilize used crests as cores. We get pieces like these in regularly. The white areas on the crest that the OP posted here are simply oxidized / faded / red or orange stripes on a old factory crest.

[noboco]

intrepidagent I'm not going to bring any more information to this thread. Just wanted to thank you for digging this piece up, it was a good read Lots of good info.

Cheers

[JJ 911SC]

The "901" on the back could be that it was for a "901" before Peugeot took Porsche to court which force them to rename the model as "911"

[Mick_D]

It's definitely NOT a 928 plenum medallion.

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

The "901" on the back could be that it was for a "901" before Peugeot took Porsche to court which force them to rename the model as "911"

Not really... Porsche Badge Identification

[intrepidagent]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

Not really... Porsche Badge Identification

Well, "yes really....." according to the factory:

"Series production of the 901 began in September 1964. When Porsche presented the vehicle at the Paris Motor Show in October of that year, the French car manufacturer Peugeot objected to the model designation. The reason: Peugeot had patented a three-digit type designation with a zero in the middle.
Porsche therefore renamed the 901 as the 911. This combination of numbers is the same as the emergency number in the USA and was therefore already well known in this key market for Porsche. 82 units of the 901 were produced before the name change."

https://www.porsche.com/international/accessoriesandservice/classic/models/911-f/911-f-901/

[winders]

Originally Posted by intrepidagent

Well, "yes really....." according to the factory:

"Series production of the 901 began in September 1964. When Porsche presented the vehicle at the Paris Motor Show in October of that year, the French car manufacturer Peugeot objected to the model designation. The reason: Peugeot had patented a three-digit type designation with a zero in the middle.
Porsche therefore renamed the 901 as the 911. This combination of numbers is the same as the emergency number in the USA and was therefore already well known in this key market for Porsche. 82 units of the 901 were produced before the name change."

https://www.porsche.com/international/accessoriesandservice/classic/models/911-f/911-f-901/

EVERYONE here knows that story or should anyway.


Porsche did not change their part numbering system when they changed the name of the car from "901" to "911". So lots of parts have/had "901" part numbers. All one has to do is look at a Porsche parts catalog to see that what I am saying is true......

[proporsche]

I have one for you guys...i got this badge from 1976 914/6 ...when i have asked in Stuttgart about it they said it is not an original Porsche badge...But who made these back in 1970`s?? I have to say it is beautiful made.

Ivan

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by intrepidagent

... Porsche therefore renamed the 901 as the 911. This combination of numbers is the same as the emergency number in the USA and was therefore already well known in this key market for Porsche...

Not quite...

Great Britain was the first country to establish a universal emergency number (999) in 1937. It was established after five people died in a fire. America's first emergency system that used 9-1-1 was in Haleyville, Alabama, and the country's first 9-1-1 call was made there on February 16, 1968....

How Did "911" Become The Emergency Call Number in North America?