BRAID 17" Fuchs Replica Wheels. Input Requested.

[BRAIDusa]

Thanks guys. Great input. I have asked the factory to consider putting in to production the following:

WIDTH OFFSET
7 +49 --- front and rear early 911, 914, early VW
8 +30 --- front 911, front 911 widebody, front 930, rear 911, 914, 944
9.5 +19 --- rear 911, front 911 widebody, front 930, rear 930, 944
11 0 --- rear 911 widebody, rear 930

[PcarPhil]

Originally Posted by BRAIDusa

Thanks guys. Great input. I have asked the factory to consider putting in to production the following:

WIDTH OFFSET
7 +49 --- front and rear early 911, 914, early VW
8 +30 --- front 911, front 911 widebody, front 930, rear 911, 914, 944
9.5 +19 --- rear 911, front 911 widebody, front 930, rear 930, 944
11 0 --- rear 911 widebody, rear 930

Very cool.

The 7" +49 is a 911R spec offset. Of all (4) of the sizes listed that will probably be the best seller - mostly to VW folks. Early 911/912/914 guys will enjoy having a 7x17" wheel option to fit non flared cars.

The 8x17 +30 may also fit the narrow '69-'77 911 cars front and rear. The rear will be close and will require some negative camber to fit. The front may require a small spacer or removing the metal strut dust covers and replacing with the rubber VW covers.

The 8&9.5x17" combo for 911 SC and 3.2 Carreras will be a sweet setup. The front may require a small spacer or removing the metal strut dust covers and replacing with the rubber VW covers. The rear may require shaving the spring plate bolts, some negative camber, and heavier rate torsion bars depending on ride height. This combo may be the best seller or slightly behind the 7" wheel in sales.

The 8&9.5x17" combo for 930 cars should be an easy fit.

The 9.5&11x17 combo for 911 widebodies and 930 will be sweet. It'll be a tight fit front and rear but for those folks that are serious about fat Fuchs style wheels these will be the answer to wanting this style wheel at an affordable price. As long as pricing is reasonable I'll be in for a set or two of these in RSR finish.

Another interesting combo - for a late 930 use 8" ET +30 front wheels and 11" ET 0 rear wheels with 235/40 front and 275/40 rear tires. That should be an easy fit with the later style front hubs. Rear spacers would be removed (or a small spacer could be used).

[island911]

Originally Posted by $ Short

What Bill V said.

Also would someone explain semi-forged.
Thanks
Kurt

Originally Posted by BRAIDusa

It's a proprietory proccess but they wont tell me how they do it. As far as I can tell the center and back rim are one forged piece and the front rim is a spun shell. Regardless the end result is light and strong.

So then, a welded section?

side note; I'm surprised that more people aren't asking about construction (considering the history of compromised imitations)

[GaryR]

Originally Posted by Elombard

Its a small market but 9s and 10s or 11s that fit an SC or carrera converted to turbo flares would be nice.

Exactly what I will be needing at some point, market just got a little bigger!

[Amochosto]

As large a wheel that will fit in an unmodified 1984 narrow body Carrera and I'd definitely give it some major consideration. What kind of price point are we thinking here?

[brentrussell]

Yes I would be keen for 17x9.5/17x11 for RSR widebody in RSR Finish.

I don't think people asked about the process as most people know the Braid are the better of what is available aftermarket.

Brent

Originally Posted by Kaefer

Very cool.

The 7" +49 is a 911R spec offset. Of all (4) of the sizes listed that will probably be the best seller - mostly to VW folks. Early 911/912/914 guys will enjoy having a 7x17" wheel option to fit non flared cars.

The 8x17 +30 may also fit the narrow '69-'77 911 cars front and rear. The rear will be close and will require some negative camber to fit. The front may require a small spacer or removing the metal strut dust covers and replacing with the rubber VW covers.

The 8&9.5x17" combo for 911 SC and 3.2 Carreras will be a sweet setup. The front may require a small spacer or removing the metal strut dust covers and replacing with the rubber VW covers. The rear may require shaving the spring plate bolts, some negative camber, and heavier rate torsion bars depending on ride height. This combo may be the best seller or slightly behind the 7" wheel in sales.

The 8&9.5x17" combo for 930 cars should be an easy fit.

The 9.5&11x17 combo for 911 widebodies and 930 will be sweet. It'll be a tight fit front and rear but for those folks that are serious about fat Fuchs style wheels these will be the answer to wanting this style wheel at an affordable price. As long as pricing is reasonable I'll be in for a set or two of these in RSR finish.

[PcarPhil]

Here's an example of 911 widebody 9.5&11x17 fitment from Brent's build thread.

Rear 11x17 ET 0 wheel with 315/35R17 tire:



Front 9.5x17 ET +8 wheel with 255/40R17 tire:



The 9.5" ET +19 wheel proposed by Braid will move the front wheel closer to the inner fender by 11mm, allowing a bit more outer clearance for a 275/40R17 tire and slightly better scrub radius.

Nice setup Brent!

[PcarPhil]

Here's another example of the 9.5&11x17 fitment.

This example has the exact offsets that Braid is considering. 11x17 ET 0 and 9.5x17 ET +19

[PcarPhil]

Another interesting combo - for a late 930 use 8" ET +30 front wheels and 11" ET 0 rear wheels with 235/40 front and 275/40 rear tires. That should be an easy fit with the later style front hubs. Rear spacers would be removed (or a small spacer could be used).

[GaryR]

Originally Posted by Kaefer

Here's another example of the 9.5&11x17 fitment.

This example has the exact offsets that Braid is considering. 11x17 ET 0 and 9.5x17 ET +19

Kaefer - Is that with no spacers on the blue car? What tires are those on the unpainted widebody?

[PcarPhil]

Originally Posted by GaryR

Kaefer - Is that with no spacers on the blue car? What tires are those on the unpainted widebody?

According to the link that's correct, no spacers.

I believe the tires on the unpainted car are Nitto NT05.

[GaryR]

Thanks, i'm thinking I want to go 315's and 245's on my car, seems like 275's would make the slow speed steering pretty heavy, no?

[PcarPhil]

Originally Posted by GaryR

Thanks, i'm thinking I want to go 315's and 245's on my car, seems like 275's would make the slow speed steering pretty heavy, no?

Tires are a personal preference. For widebody cars I've seen 235-275 up front and 275-335 in the rear.

Personally I like running tires on the narrower end of the scale. Lighter weight and usually smaller diameters.

[BRAIDusa]

Originally Posted by island911

So then, a welded section?

side note; I'm surprised that more people aren't asking about construction (considering the history of compromised imitations)

Yes, I believe there are welds involved. But these are not "compromised imitations" of course. Just ask Carlos Sainz.

[BRAIDusa]

Originally Posted by Amochosto

As large a wheel that will fit in an unmodified 1984 narrow body Carrera and I'd definitely give it some major consideration. What kind of price point are we thinking here?

No numbers on these yet but if one looks at the prices for 15" and 16" and extrapolates............................BRAID USA

[BRAIDusa]

Here's a thought: would anyone consider a three piece wheel with hidden screws? Should look just the same. Advantage 1: easy custom offsets. Advantage 2: might actually happen.

Disadvantages : ???

[PcarPhil]

Originally Posted by BRAIDusa

Here's a thought: would anyone consider a three piece wheel with hidden screws? Should look just the same. Advantage 1: easy custom offsets. Advantage 2: might actually happen.

Disadvantages : ???

Sounds good to me. Currently the best (and most expensive) 17" Fuchs style wheels are built this way.

[myamoto1]

Originally Posted by BRAIDusa

Here's a thought: would anyone consider a three piece wheel with hidden screws? Should look just the same. Advantage 1: easy custom offsets. Advantage 2: might actually happen.

Disadvantages : ???

Absolutely! Price might be the only downside (from a sales standpoint).

[not_hans_stuck]

ditto for the 9.5 and 11x17 on SC's. But also with an inch of space for big brake calipers.

Hal

[totle]

Originally Posted by jsveb

for a 930: 9 and 11" would be awesome!

+10