Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
MichiganMat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,270
Garage
Send a message via AIM to MichiganMat
Building the optimal 901 transmission

Im in the process of rebuilding our 901 transmission on our '67 912 project and I've got a few questions:

1.) I've heard the diff needs to be updated to the "simplified" design. True?
2.) I've got 2 different cases at the moment, one with the narrow intermediate plate and one with the widened plate from a 914. Should I build with the later wider case? Is there any advantage to it over the original narrow '67 case?
3.) What else do I need to be aware of concerning the 901?
4.) Where can I get torque specs on the input and output shaft nuts?
5.) How much horsepower can we expect to handle mated to a 901?

Thanks all

__________________
'75 911S 3.0L
'75 914 3.2 Honda J
'67 912R-STi
'05 Cayenne Turbo
'99 LR Disco 2, gone but not forgotten
Old 12-10-2012, 12:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
djpateman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Burford, ON, Canada
Posts: 2,318
The aluminum case 901 would be stronger than the magnesium 914 case, and original to the car. Output flanges will be correct.
If it is a 914 case, then the diff needs to be flipped, and a new vent location drilled.
What are the serial's from the two cases?
Get Dr Evil's rebuilding DVD.
__________________
Keeper of 356, 911, 912 & 914 databases; source for Kardex and CoA-type reports; email for info
Researching 356, 911, 912 & 914 Paint codes, Engine #'s and Transmission #'s
Addicted since 1975
Old 12-11-2012, 09:29 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Grady Clay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Arapahoe County, Colorado, USA
Posts: 9,032
Quote:
Originally Posted by MichiganMat View Post
Im in the process of rebuilding our 901 transmission on our '67 912 project and I've got a few questions:

1.) I've heard the diff needs to be updated to the "simplified" design. True?
2.) I've got 2 different cases at the moment, one with the narrow intermediate plate and one with the widened plate from a 914. Should I build with the later wider case? Is there any advantage to it over the original narrow '67 case?
3.) What else do I need to be aware of concerning the 901?
4.) Where can I get torque specs on the input and output shaft nuts?
5.) How much horsepower can we expect to handle mated to a 901?

Thanks all
1.) No. The ‘simplified’ design differential needs to be updated. You can use the parts from the 914 differential.

2.) Yes, use the aluminum case transmission with the ‘narrow’ intermediate plate. That is a good, strong transmission compared to the 914-4.

3.) Don’t use first gear for ‘jackrabbit’ starts.
First is a gear to get the car easily rolling, not to apply lots of power.

4.) Get a photocopy or scan of Section “R” pages R1-R87 with Supplement pages SR1-SR172 of the 911 Workshop Manual, Vol. I.
The Porsche PET CD parts manual has great exploded diagrams.
This will have all the info you will need.
There is a lot here in the Pelican archives. The Search function is your friend.
The DVD is a great addition. I.

5.) I consider a 2.7 or 2.8 to be the limit for a type 901/911 – if you are careful.
Even then, the transmission must be ‘perfect’ and you will need an oil pump-filter-cooler system for extended high-power use.
Some think it acceptable to use a 3.0 or 3.2. I don’t.
This transmission was designed for a 1.6 & 2.0.

Best,
Grady
__________________
ANSWER PRICE LIST (as seen in someone's shop)
Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75
Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25
Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50
Old 12-11-2012, 10:19 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
AutoBahned
 
RWebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
Posts: 55,993
Garage
#3 is b/c the gear is hung way out there by itself

- best upgrade to a 901 trans. is a typ 911 trans.

- how about a 904 mainshaft (or the upgrade aftermarket part that somebody makes...)
Old 12-11-2012, 11:14 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
MichiganMat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,270
Garage
Send a message via AIM to MichiganMat
Is it true that ring and pinions are ground to be paired up together? The pinion in my 901 box was badly gouged so I've used the pinion from my 914 box, but Id have to swap rings on the 901 diff and that seems complicated. Can I just continue to use the orig 901 diff with the 914 output shaft?

Thanks all.
__________________
'75 911S 3.0L
'75 914 3.2 Honda J
'67 912R-STi
'05 Cayenne Turbo
'99 LR Disco 2, gone but not forgotten
Old 12-12-2012, 07:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 759
Pinions and ring gears are tested together for noise at various positions, the final adjustment marked and paired at that point. Adjustments vary quite a bit.

Running orphan gears of the same manufacturer together is possible, but not recommended. In your case, the 914/4 pinion was manufactured by Volkswagen, the 901 ring gear by Getrag or Hurth.

Have the 914 ring & pinion set up in your 901 by a Porsche or VW transmission shop in the bay area, or contact Pete Zimmerman in Bakersfield.

__________________
Jon B.
Vista, CA
Old 12-12-2012, 09:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:57 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.