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SiberianDVM 05-16-2014 12:35 PM

LOL :)

I'm sure that's what my GF thinks as well, especially since I'm spending $10 on a transmission rebuild and upgrade on Bwunhilde, my 1984 Carrera track car.

That's in addition to the 914 that's having it's rust issues taken care of, and the Supra Chump Car that I'm building in the back yard. GF would rather I spent the money on my house, which is need of some repairs.

Good luck. I hope you get her (what ever your car's name is) fixed soon. Then drive the hell out of her.

Lapkritis 05-16-2014 12:46 PM

Get some tools, start tearing. Valve covers come off in just a few minutes and those will tell the story best between minor or major.

mobius911 05-16-2014 01:01 PM

OP, you have a good attitude. That's 90% of the battle.

COLB 05-16-2014 01:14 PM

You can also pick up a used engine, and drop it in.

Then you can drive the car while you are taking time to sort yours the right way. Once you are done rebuilding the original, sell the replacement for about what you paid for it.

dad911 05-16-2014 02:34 PM

OP - Lots of mixed advice here. Could be many things. You may start by reading this:Pelican Technical Article: Time to Rebuild? - Part I

From the description, this could be a minor problem, and I seriously doubt a connecting rod/cap.

I would pull all the plugs, and turn the engine over by hand, make sure it turns smoothly. Then do a leakdown test. If thats ok, pull the valve covers, check the rockers, and the tensioners.

NICE 69 S 05-16-2014 03:45 PM

Metal in the oil?
 
If there is metal in the oil, the engine must come apart, even if it is just a rocker bushing that got eaten up. You have to get all the flakes out of the engine. The up side here is that after inspection, you can probably clean and re-assemble the motor with very few new parts, to keep the cost down.
Bob B

A&F 05-16-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NICE 69 S (Post 8068717)
If there is metal in the oil, the engine must come apart, even if it is just a rocker bushing that got eaten up. You have to get all the flakes out of the engine. The up side here is that after inspection, you can probably clean and re-assemble the motor with very few new parts, to keep the cost down.
Bob B

That is the plan right now. Take it apart, clean it up and hopefully I'm out a set of bearings and some gaskets.

Tinker 05-16-2014 07:06 PM

It's a good looking car.

My $0.02 (for what it's worth), jack it up, pull the valve covers, drain and inspect the oil that comes out of the case and the tank, and then turn the engine over with a wrench on the crankshaft pulley bolt. It should be pretty self evident if some thing is seriously wrong. The bottom ends on the 3.2's are pretty stout but have the skinnier rod bolts. Unless it's been over-rev-ed, it's hard for me to believe a rod cap came off. However, anything significant in the oil requires flushing the whole system at a minimum and serious investigation.

Hoping for the best,

Tinker

Rob 930 06-09-2014 04:20 PM

A&F,

Any update on your trajectory?

Rob

fred cook 06-09-2014 05:00 PM

Location........
 
Where is the car located? There may be some Pelicans nearby that would jump in to help with the engine work. Wouldn't be the first time!

Tippy 06-09-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Where is the car located? There may be some Pelicans nearby that would jump in to help with the engine work. Wouldn't be the first time!
Yep, if it were Austin or San Antonio, I'd totally take a look and/or tear it down.

Don't devalue this car, it is the best and last 911.

A&F 12-15-2014 05:04 AM

Boom-chuck-a-Rod

So it's been a while. The car has sat as I have been tied up with other projects. Last Saturday I went ahead and pulled the engine. It did not go well.

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911nut 12-15-2014 05:28 AM

I literally screamed when I saw the rod hanging out of the case.
Here is your opportunity to build up a new, kick-ass engine.
Best of luck to you.

db_cooper 12-15-2014 05:30 AM

Oh boy..sorry to see and deepest regrets...did MM rebuild the engine?

tobluforu 12-15-2014 05:34 AM

Holy wow! See if you can find a short block, or a whole engine.

A&F 12-15-2014 05:48 AM

Quote:

Holy wow! See if you can find a short block, or a whole engine.

Yeah, I'm going to disassemble and inspect it. What portion of the crank I can see in my new "inspection" window looks good.

Anyone have the run down for what are the going rates for 3.2 cores, runners and cases?

Can I use a 3.0 case? (930 is the same case as a 3.0, right?)

Cairo94507 12-15-2014 05:54 AM

Oh my.....that is just sad. I can't believe that rod punched a hole in the case. Look at the positive side of this, you have a beautiful looking coupe. Now you can build a fresh 3.2 or even a 3.6 and install it and know you have a tight, fresh motor. On the other hand you can look for a used, running 3.2 and just bolt it in and drive it. If it were me, I would build a fresh motor salvaging what parts you can from your engine and then enjoy the car.

SiberianDVM 12-15-2014 06:04 AM

Oh, $$$$$!!!!

My 1984 Targa was destroyed in a front end wreck last month, but the motor and newly rebuilt transmission are still good.

Either you buy my engine or I'll buy your Coupe.

pete3799 12-15-2014 06:06 AM

Houston.....we have a problem.

porsche930dude 12-15-2014 06:51 AM

well that answers youre question. Any recourse with the engine builder or are they already out of buisness?


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