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Need picture of 1981 Lambda Temp sender connector

I was sent a Lambda harness for a 1981 that has had the connector for the right side chain case temperature sender replaced with a female 14 pin connector terminal with no outer jacket or insulation protection of any kind. (Obviously not correct)

If someone with an '81 would take a picture(s) of the right side chain case Lambda sender and the correct terminal installed and removed and post it here for me, I would really appreciate it.

TIA.

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I believe the part number for the correct sender is 930-606-117-00 The image on Pelican shows a straight .250 tab for a slide on connector. Should be simple right? Well, looking at the connector on the harness I was sent, there is no way a round female terminal would fit a flat tab connector. Perhaps someone changed out the sender?
I've asked the owner to send me a picture of their sender, but just want to confirm what should be the correct sender/connector combo with a little help from the board.
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Dennis,

The original lambda switch had a flat blade connector. There are other lambda switches with different temperatures that have round post terminals. One of these (a VW/Audi switch) was marketed as an "upgrade" for lambda 911SC's with cold drivability issues. The "super switch" works great.
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Thanks Bruce and Paul for both the pictures and the information about the different Lambda replacement "super" switch.
Must be calibrated for a different temperature range to enable the cold system to run at a different percentage until warm.
The person I am building the harness for wants to go back to the original sender, so I will build it with the 90 degree .250 style blade connector.
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Stationary Blade Connectors

It's a .250 terminal on the wire and this connector screwed to the sender unit. The 90 degree single blade one.
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Hi Mike,
I was thinking the same thing as an option for what must be a replacement sender. The original factory one is just the blade crimped/riveted to the center post where other replacement types of senders extend the post and have different connector options.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=930-606-117-00-M100

Whomever installed the replacement sender was definitely not trying to make it look good. They soldered a female terminal on the wire and pushed it onto the post.
Not the worst junkyard/backyard wiring mod I've seen on an engine harness in the last year of building them, but it is definitely right up there!
I continue to be amazed by the condition of some of the harnesses I'm sent. It really surprises me that the engines were running at all with some of them!
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Now that I think about it, I learned about that 90 degree connector from...your harness that you made me!

I was a bit upset when I saw that you put a female terminal on that wire, when it was clear that my new temp sender had a post connection!

My original setup on my car was so corroded that you couldn't tell that there was a female spade to 90 degree setup on it, I assumed it was a small strange ring terminal, and only after close examination did I learn that, yes, there is an extra piece hidden under that gunk.

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