Take your buddies with you THAT RUIN EVERY A/C THREAD HERE NO MATTER THE SUBJECT

If you are not one of these, I will try to answer questions

So you're saying that you are West's "buddy" (I'm sure Mr. West sez otherwise), considering that you ruin every a/c thread you post in.

It should be clear even to you that I don't have "buddies", those are just co-logical thinkers.

The front lip condenser, even your PFC, has less cooling surface area, lower average airflow than the engine lid condenser, PFC or OEM, with the engine at idle.

So simple logic indicates that your "reverse the gasses" technique/invention/idea cannot possibly provide additional refrigerant condensing capability.

NO

this was a reference to YOU

Correct me if I am wrong Keloges, but the idea was to lessen the heat load on the engine and oil by getting most of the heat out of the refrigerant at the front condenser, not make the a/c colder.

roflma

No, he has stated both, improved condensing efficiency and cooler engine.

I think I can speak for all in saying we agree with the latter but completely fail to understand the improved condensing capability KelogGes is touting for his "invention".

It seems to me that it would be a relatively simple matter for KelogGes to take some data using the Tan Swan, put the system back in the factory configuration, rear lid condenser first in the flow, then take another dataset for comparison.

Instead, KelogGes has (seemingly) convinced some unknown third party to install a "reverse the gasses" configuration for a dataset, hopefully having gathered an OEM dataset first.

I fully admit that I just can't grasp the idea of a third party, a DIY, being suckered into doing KelogGes' basic research, data gathering, effort, given the obvious illogic of the idea/invention.

It would help a lot if KelogGes would put forth his own version of the logic of why his idea has validity.

ITS more complicated then what you said / indicted

REVERSING THE GASES

Engine and Oil Temperature being much lower when the A/C IS SWITCHED ON is only a side benefits not the main thing !!!

But a major one being as we are talking about an aircooled engine that normally gets hotter with A/C ON, sometimes too much on a hot day with different driving conditions

The front smaller PFC or whatever condenser heat exchanger; is/has actually proven to be the most important when the gases are reversed; because it is always in ambient air temperature!

Therefore heat transfer when the gases are reversed; greatly effects condensation of the system gas temperatures for ALSO the rear heat exchanger in the 180 degree plus engine compartment;

THEREBY greater condensation back to liquid of the refrigerant; so it can make more cold faster/more efficently when it goes to make cold when phase-change expanding in the evaporator.

ITS COLDER;

PLUS FASTER AND PLUS BETTER CONDENSATION

and a much MORE EFFICENT A/C SYSTEM

Did I write this so it makes sense to you in the way I wrote it to you?

Porsche 911 early model A/C design engineers really blew it

As well as a host of others since it was designed who tried to make it efficient

AND IT WAS STARRING THEM IN THEIR FACES ALL THE TIME

AND THEY COULD'NT THINK OUT SIDE THE BOX!

PROVE ME WRONG, I am giving you something important for free

I HAVE THIS WORkING ON SEVERAL 911's http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/grin.gif

Ronnie when are you going to PROPERLY prove your 29.x degree number you claim you get with your A/C SYSTEM with extended driving and your evaporator does not freeze up BS?????????????????????????

Agree on both counts. Work is way beyond what I can do.

This is awesome. Astrodome sized and fits/seals properly. Plus contains KelogGes goodness.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430346686.jpg

You talking about the chicken hed?

The "hed" already said he will test on a drive when it gets warm enough.

Austin looks pretty wimpy as to heat the next ten days.

Forge on.

I'll help Ronnie toss your BS BOMBS right back at you...?

When are you, YOU, the "inventor" going to prove that your "reverse the gasses" idea is worth more than a PLUG NICKEL.

Or even more, prove how/why your front lip PFC outperforms the OEM tube and fin design on the road.

Pieholio likes when Willy beats on you.

Look at the upside. There may be a chance you nut up and describe what you are barking about.

General perception of KelogGes nut diameter.

One nanometer.

One billionth of a meter.

Hey, just sayin'

In the picture on the far right side deep, the silver aluminum cylinder is an accumulator tank; needed for the "Variable Orifice Valve" injecting Liquid R134A into the evaporator, for LP return line catch'/retain and to keep liquid refrigerant OUT of the a/c compressor low pressure side inlet so the compressor does not get damaged

you do not have this a normal early model 911

That's OK Bob

I have something planned for you and your 8,600 posts

Make good stuff and be nice.

Cut me to ribbons. A man who has nothing to lose is a lame target.

8,600 posts and I watch X-File re-runs. Really?

Like I've told you before, I prove it to myself each time I drive my car in temps where I operate the a/c. It must irritate you to no end that you have neither the knowledge nor the skills to build a proper, high performance system, but keep expanding your knowledge base and maybe one day you will get there!

Better start shooting roids, Reid, because based on what I've seen from you thus far, you couldn't carry Bob's jock.

How can your VOV be more efficient at cooling the evaporator as it obviously has the potential, probability, of having liquid refrigerant escape the evaporator??

Waste of compressor function, condensing function (short of that already)...

Accumulator purpose is to "boil off" any liquid refrigerant downstream of the evaporator? Effectively "cooling" the engine compartment.

I'm not a big fan of "pro-coolers", "extra" cooling of the LIQUID refrigerant as it enters the TXV but if you're going to "boil off" liquid refrigerant in a fully wasteful manner why not use a pro-cooler technique?

We Do Not Have This Here IN The A/C Threads!
 

You can only learn something if you have an open mind

What we have is too many fools

THAT RUIN IT FOR THOSE TRULY SEEKING KNOWLEDGE

Who's we? You got a mouse in your pocket?

What is that old saying? "When you begin to think everyone else is crazy"...? Maybe some truth in that.

You really have a flair for this internet irony thing.

^^^ That, and unintended levity are two of Reid's forum strong-suits!!!

I know, right?

Speaking of fools, here is a video where that wwest guy hooks up with you 39 seconds in to help with your hubris and pretty pink outfit.

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5 LBS 5 OZ's Total Weight of my new version of BOTH FRONT & REAR PFC/s
 

State of The Art PFC Technology custom made for early model 911's also using my discovery Reversing The Gases

CAPABLE OF 30's DEGREE A/C VENT TEMPS @ 95 DEGREE'S AMBIENT

5 LBS 5 OZ's Total Weight of my new version of BOTH FRONT & REAR PFC/s

Front PFC ONE pound .95 ounces

Rear PFC THREE pounds .56 ounces


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430792272.jpg


Most Efficient A/C Condenser in the world today for early model 911s and only using TWO condensers;

BOTH FRONT AND REAR PFC's FIT LIKE A GLOVE INTO THE ORIGINAL 911 BODY CAVITY's !

when others have to rely on THREE HEAVY Old Technology condensers plus a lot of extra weight for extra hoses and body modification

The 2 Black Bars on the top of the rear deck lid PFC in the picture is a new invention for DIY installation

Another sales promo.

Wrong forum. Get out of this one, choader.

You really do suck.

Go ahead and threaten me. Dare you, punk.

There will be a day of reckoning.

Nice work but you are an A-hole.

Don't eff with Pieholio.

I don't like you.

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Bob you are a pathetic two faced human bean

and a prime example of what is wrong here in the A/C threads

I DO NOT SELL HERE! I AM VERY PICKY WHO I decide to sell TOO!

I AM GLAD YOU DON'T LIKE ME, I consider that a complicate from you

you are nothing to me but an A hole trying to constantly cause trouble and harassment

At least I do something constructive here inventing new things to make old 911's better and promoting new technology and ideas that really work and are improvements

I ALSO NEVER LIE !!!

I CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT YOU!

^^^

I wonder if Eric "would pet" ?!?!?!

Why else would you repeat the same spiel over and over and over (along with posting the same pictures) in all of your threads?

Either you're selling something, or your hubristic nature is leading you around by the Richard.