soft lugnut socket

Kmatts · 01-21-2003, 04:39 AM

Hey all, does anyone use these things. I bought one a while back and it worked fine until last night, when the entire nylon insert basically broke and feel out.
Maybe I just got a defective one?
I'm trying to decide if I should buy another one.
Kyle.

RoninLB · 01-21-2003, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by Kmatts
the entire nylon insert basically broke and feel out.
Maybe I just got a defective one?

Well, IMO.. they work great on new lug nuts.. that's why I replaced one.. it seems the socket clearance isn't great.. so a routine lug nut that's imperfect will chew up the plastic slowly.. happened to me on old nuts.. but the good news is that it should have a life time garantee.. so, a new socket and new nuts have lasted maybe 10 4-wheel removal/install so far..............Ron

bill3667 · 01-21-2003, 04:54 AM

I was told by a vendor who did not sell either to go w/ the solid (soft) metal versions for that very reason. He said he'd seen some of the nylon ones fail doing their first set of wheels.

No personal experience w/ either one...yet.
Bill W.

RoninLB · 01-21-2003, 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by bill3667
I was told by a vendor who did not sell either to go w/ the solid (soft) metal versions for that very reason.

that's the routine at PCA stuff.. the Stoddard brass socket seems to be the standard.. Wayne should have them.. they work great on old nuts.................Ron

Huey581 · Huey581's Garage

I bought one and it failed the first time! The nylon edges rounded over and I threw the thing away!

Kmatts · 01-21-2003, 05:06 AM

well, the only problem is that I seriously cannot remember where i purchased the soft socket. It make it less than 5 tire changes (that's 5 tires total, not 5 sets).
hmmmmm. decisions.

Oldporsche · 01-21-2003, 05:38 AM

I have a collection of worn out ones. Whats this? a Warrenty? wow.

I have the original Porsche tool for this. I think its the P1800 socket.

Personally I use a deep six point craftsman 3/8" drive socket. It will slip over the lug nut an not be anywhere near the wheel.

Good luck,
David Duffield

Kmatts · 01-21-2003, 05:53 AM

David, any problems with scratching your lug nuts using the craftsmen?
if so, any idea where i can pick up the Porsche part?
I always am removing a wheel for some reason. I don't want to ruin another set of lug nuts. many thanks. Kyle

Rot 911 · 01-21-2003, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Kmatts
I always am removing a wheel for some reason. I don't want to ruin another set of lug nuts. many thanks. Kyle

That's what they make black permanent markers for!

chuckr · 01-21-2003, 06:01 AM

I just got my second soft socket, my first one lasted for three years...
However I only used a hand lug nut wrench for removal and installation. the reason I had to order a new one is that I used a air wrench the last time I removed and installed new tires and the air tool ate up my soft socket !

RoninLB · 01-21-2003, 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by old_porsche
Whats this? a Warrenty? wow.

Personally I use a deep six point craftsman 3/8" drive socket. Good luck
,
David Duffield

if it's a Softsocket it should be covered for warrantee.. I couldn't find the mfg. to send it directly to them.. the address/phone number would be funny.. prlicanheads will flood them with a thousand of 'em, LOL

I use the 1/2in Snap-On on the road rides.. it's got a nice bite that doesn't round the edges..............Ron

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

Soft sockets, waste of time unless you are part of the Q tip and tooth brush crowd.....

Use the Craftsman 6 point and a black magic markers or polish yer nuts.....my bench mounted wire wheel makes them look great.

Kmatts · 01-21-2003, 08:01 AM

here's the solution. thanks for the feedback everyone!!!!! Kyle.

http://buy.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?P65=yes&qt=1&tool=all&INV_ONHAND=&FREIGHT=&qty=1&Item_id=53413&PartNo=AIS191&Price=29.00&ListPrice=29.00&FORMNAME=2&Desc=Socket%2C+Impact%2C+Lug+Nut%2C+Aluminum%2FSte el%2C+19mm&SUB_Cat_ID=1373196&SUB_Cat_NAME=Lug+Nut+Sockets+%28Aluminum%2FSteel%2 9&Cat_ID=1373051&Cat_NAME=Tire+And+Wheel&group_id=12518&group_NAME=Lug+Nut+Sockets+%28Aluminum%2FSteel%29&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

usafa · usafa's Garage

mikez....sounds painfull

Oldporsche · 08:15 AM

"David, any problems with scratching your lug nuts using the craftsmen?
if so, any idea where i can pick up the Porsche part?"
Kyle

I haven't had any problems with the 6 Point deep 3/8" socket marking up the lug nuts. If I have a pristine nut, and want to make sure it stays that way I have used masking tape on the nuts. I have also used post-it notes etc. anything to use as a cushion.

The original Porsche tool, is a 23mm socket with an aluminum insert that is swaged to 19MM internal across the flats. It will mark up a set of perfect pristine black lug nuts. It is very close to the wheel radius also. One would have to be perfectly lined up to keep it from marking the wheel. Its just another idea that didn't really work out that well.

I believe that with a little experimentation and some aluminum valley tin from the hardware store or some soft aluminum sheet stock, one could make a soft side socket that would work well. You would need some 3/4" hex stock to form the insert, then use an industrial glue to hold it in a deep six point socket. It would work better than the porsche tool because it would have more clearance with respect to the inside radius of the Fuchs wheel. It would have more contact with the flats of the nut than the original tool because it would fit all the way to the flange of the nut. My original tool has a sloppy fit of the insert and it doesn't contact the full surface of the flats of the lug nuts.

Good luck,
David Duffield

Kmatts · 01-21-2003, 08:13 AM

http://www.sears.com/sr/product/summary/productsummary.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0930205712.104 3168612@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccddadchgdmggfdcehgcemgdffmdflh.0&vertical=TOOL&fromAuto=YES&bidsite=&pid=00944446000

of course this works too and is much cheaper.

thebondman · thebondman's Garage

I would avoid the 12 point.

ChrisBennet · ChrisBennet's Garage

I have steel nuts

but I bought an aluminum Stoddard soft socket for working on the tech line. I found that it was too thick for some aftermarket wheels.
-Chris

usafa · usafa's Garage

So Chris, do you use some kind of warmer for your steel nuts during those long cold winters in NH? Seems like you would need something as they may be too small to fit otherwise.

ChrisBennet · ChrisBennet's Garage

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Originally posted by usafa
So Chris, do you use some kind of warmer for your steel nuts during those long cold winters in NH? Seems like you would need something as they may be too small to fit otherwise.

Nature has provided a solution to this problem - retractable gear!

Seriously, a hot wench solves this problem.

(not a spelling mistake)