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Question on shifter 5th/Reverse Tabs on Housing and Stick

Hi,

Just replaced my bushings and coupler and noticed that the tabs on the housing don't even remotely come close to the hook on the shifter. It is a factory short shift kit and I didn't take it apart, so apparently it has worked for years; is it supposed to hook over the tabs when in gear?

I saw this tech article and it looks like theirs sits high as well. Porsche 911 Factory Short Shift Kit Installation | 911 (1965-89) - 930 Turbo (1975-89) | Pelican Parts DIY Maintenance Article

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Here's a picture of what I'm asking about:

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Think so. I changed the shifter bushings and here is end result (looks the same as before I changed the disintegrated bushing)



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Yes it's supposed to catch the tabs on 5th and reverse. I'd also clean up the shifter shaft too. You can see it has grooves on it from the shaft catching the reverse lock-out pawl/teardrop. That pawl tip and the shaft should have some grease on it to prevent the grooves from happening.
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I suspect you have mismatched parts. Looks like you may have the factory stock shift
lever and perhaps the raised short shifter pivot piece. if so, that would explain the catch tab being too high. Check the pics of the different sticks and the pivot to catch tab distance. Only explanation I can come up with.

In this pic, the short shifter stick is on the top and the short shifter raised pivot piece is on the left. The bottom stick is the stock one.


The different sticks. Note that the standard stick has the catch tab much higher on the stick.
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Thanks so much guys, I suspected that the lever might be wrong. It has been many years since I added the factory short shift, I wonder if I mistakenly reused the original or if they put the wrong one in the kit?

Any one have a part number or any other info that will get me to the right one?

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Thanks so much guys, I suspected that the lever might be wrong. It has been many years since I added the factory short shift, I wonder if I mistakenly reused the original or if they put the wrong one in the kit?

Any one have a part number or any other info that will get me to the right one?

-Rutager
Checked the parts in the PET, looks like a new kit may be your only path.
The short shift stick by itself is priced at $278, however if you buy the whole short shift kit it's only $178. Go figure!
Any chance you may still have the other stick laying around?
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Checked the parts in the PET, looks like a new kit may be your only path.
The short shift stick by itself is priced at $278, however if you buy the whole short shift kit it's only $178. Go figure!
Any chance you may still have the other stick laying around?
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I ordered the kit since I had a $20 web certificate from Pelican and then realized I had $34 dollars on my PayPal- it's like I'm making money here.

I saw that the stick alone was big money, also weird was that the Porsche one was cheaper than the OEM version.

The only stick I have is the one in the housing now, which might be the original 1977 one.
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One step ahead of you!

I ordered the kit since I had a $20 web certificate from Pelican and then realized I had $34 dollars on my PayPal- it's like I'm making money here.

I saw that the stick alone was big money, also weird was that the Porsche one was cheaper than the OEM version.

The only stick I have is the one in the housing now, which might be the original 1977 one.
Good show! Now you'll get to experience a real short shifter experience! LOL
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Just a quick partial update; I got the new kit and disassembled my old setup and here's a photo showing what I had and the new part- obviously my old shift rid was wrong.

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Big thanks to uwanna for giving the pictorial differences to verify I could have the wrong shift rod in my housing.

Here's the final update with the short shift kit installed and tabs in alignment:

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can you post of picture of the metal box that was inside the shift housing?

thanks Lorne M.
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Here you go:



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That is the part needed for the short shifter handle, would you like to sell it?. I have a short shifter handle without the pivot.

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Nope, but I'll give it to you!

Did you need other parts as well, not sure if they are specific to short shift or not?
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I would love it, I have been looking for one for years.

The shifter and that block are the only things unique to the short shifters

Please let me know how I can cover the cost of shipping at least.

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Lorne,

Shipping is minimal, not something to worry about. PM your address and I'll get the parts mailed this week

Sure that the box piece is it, I can't see Porsche including more than needed? The kit also comes with the top, rubber piece, springs, pin and u shaped piece. Easy enough to send everything that I removed.

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Hi Rutager

I could use any of the old shifter parts that you don't need but please let me pay the shipping costs.

Thanks again Lorne M.
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Hi Lorne,

All boxed up, should be able to hit the post office tomorrow while running around.

I put the squarish piece, the yolk, two springs, pin, rubber spacer and top plate in the box. I suspect that for sure the yolk is different from stock as the shifter sits in a different plane on the short shifter. Curve of squarish piece faces up when installed.

Putting it all together under spring pressure is a bit of "fun", I left the shift rod for last and put the housing on the floor and used my foot to push the plate down while keeping the springs inline with my fingers then twisted each direction so I could fit the nuts.

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