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DHE11 02-02-2018 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric at Pelican Parts (Post 9911058)
Woah, this is getting really interesting! Will the Voodoo handbrake get in the way when you're on the circuit? If I were doing a hydro handbrake setup, I have a feeling I'd yank accidentally yank it sometimes, haha.

Looking forward to the Bathurst 12Hrs, I love watching it!


Hi Eric,
This whole hydro thing is a bit of R&D, ive never done it before so had the same concerns. However here the plan to overcome the problem - Solution #1

Aside from light weight and build quality, the main reason i selected the Voodoo13 product is it can be configured multiple ways, so it can also be set as a traditional “pull up”
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517604590.jpg

Or it can be configured as a pull back (non inverted) , or with a lower pivot change a push forward (inverted). So this should provide a bit of flexibility with mounting locations.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517604813.jpg

Failing all of that, the long handle extension is actually removable.
So this is the most likely solution for track days and just fit for motorkhana/gymkhana events.

DHE11 02-02-2018 01:22 PM

Hargett shifter
 
Solution #2
Before committing to the concept of a hydro handbrake, i was on the search for a Hargett Pro shifter. Even without the modified handbrake this was part of the build plan.
However when i went to order before Xmas, Hargett could not supply, and I searched the world and no retailers had stock. I tried a few WTB posts here with no luck...

After giving up on the Hargett as “unobtanium”, i contacted Clint@Rebel for a RSR raised shift tunnel to move the shifter up. I would get another Wevo which I had in my previous car and really liked. The tunnel raiser and Wevo would work well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517609516.jpg


A month passed and I couldn’t beleive it when a Hargett came up for sale on this forum which i was lucky enought to secure from @flyn-hawn, i think i must have sent 3 PM’s and emails in the middle of the night confirming i was #1 in line.
Dave even had the linkages and dropped then off in LA, thanks Dave - legend!


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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517609562.png

zociety 02-02-2018 01:57 PM

What a lovely start of the project, and well done for keeping it going!

Eric at Pelican Parts 02-02-2018 02:37 PM

I get more and more excited with each update you post, DHE11! Thank you for all your insight, you’ve definitely thought everything through!

Oh, you may have sold me on the Voodoo hydro handbrake too :D

DHE11 02-03-2018 10:15 AM

Spend quite a bit of time defining the workscope prior to paint.
Here are the last pictures before the car went to the body shop...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517685099.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517685119.jpg

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DHE11 02-05-2018 01:38 PM

Body prep and paint
 
Car is currently at the body shop.
All of the major panels on this car will be composite. Quite a bit of work involved to prep, fit and carry out some small modifications.
Front fender is having fuel filler delete as remote fill not requried with the fuel cell.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517869904.jpg

Door handle delete underway and fitting the new A.I.R winged rockers.
As the rear guards are removable, the rockers also need to be easily removed. Being new parts these requried a fair amount fitting to line up and fasten (about a dozen cigarettes and an energy drink per side....)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1517869938.jpg

DHE11 02-08-2018 03:13 AM

Brake package
 
After reviewing all the options, i decided to go with the Rebel Racing 996 brake package.
Its bolt on and i have bought parts fron clint@rebel before.
All the RSR suspension parts i have had previously have been very good quality, i know it will work, and they look so good its a shame too fit them where they are out if sight! (however makes me smile later when i am under the car servicing it...)

Larger diameter and thickness rotors are offset by lighter alloy hats, which supports my aim to keep the unsprung weight down. I did not need to go overboard with big heavy brakes as car is on target for being well under 2200lbs.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518089947.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518089999.jpg

996 on the rear too.
Have removed all the e-brake weight and mechanicals as will be running the Voodoo13 hydraulic handbrake.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518090039.jpg

DHE11 02-09-2018 03:37 AM

More photos of bodywork prep...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518179789.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518179813.jpg

DHE11 02-10-2018 01:53 AM

While doing the bodywork putting in a flush frame to fit a lexan windshield.
More weight savings....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518259931.jpg

DHE11 02-10-2018 02:46 PM

Sealing the firewall
 
More body work.... lots of holes to weld up to seal the factory firewall holes, plus where the cage comes through to tie the front and rear suspension points.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518305999.jpg

DHE11 02-11-2018 01:42 PM

Speedo is out to North Hollywood for the Mph to Kph conversion.
My previous one in Australia was 300kph, however this time i have elected to go for a 250 dial.
With the close gear ratios, the 3.6 and a very low 5th, I expect top speed at place like Bathurst will be limited to 245kph (152Mph)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518388467.jpg

I looked at a few different styles and decided to keep it basic so it is easier to read at a quick glance.... (and i mainly just use the tacho)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518388559.jpg

DHE11 02-12-2018 12:28 PM

More firewall holes sealed up and brake booster out.
Will be running an adjustable dual master cylinder set uphttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518470457.jpg

DHE11 02-13-2018 11:43 AM

996 brake package
 
Sourced a set of refurbished 996 calipers to go with the new discs.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518554491.jpg

DHE11 02-15-2018 03:50 AM

More sealing of the firewall/dash.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518698455.jpg

Previous interior was white, which is too bright and reflective.
Had then been painted silver.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518698576.jpg

Going with a grey to keep it light colour but cut down the interior brightness.
Will also do the engine bay and trunk grey as well.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1518698927.jpg

NaplesBound 02-15-2018 02:46 PM

Looking good. I am eager to see the progress as you continue. Makes me want to get back on my car ASAP.

Christopher Fowler

DHE11 02-17-2018 02:15 PM

Had a few shipments of Rebel Racing gear delivered (thanks Clint) so could start trial fit of the brake rotors and calipers on the new MCS struts. Needed to do this to take some accurate clearance measurements for some custom 17” wheels.
Looking good to achieve a target of 15lbs or less per wheel...

DHE11 02-22-2018 12:36 PM

Interior paint complete
 
Finished the interior and engine bay/trunk.
Time for colour now - brave choice with Karminrot, so will see how it looks soon....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519335158.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519335180.jpg

Eric at Pelican Parts 02-22-2018 12:51 PM

Nice updates! Can't wait to see it painted Karminrot!

DHE11 02-23-2018 07:39 PM

New track update
 
Our new motorsport park at Tailem Bend in South Australia is nearly ready for first event, a GT3 endurance round and local Porsche cup challenge. GT field will use the full 7.7km circuit.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519446633.jpg


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mikedsilva 02-23-2018 11:09 PM

wow

Bill Douglas 02-23-2018 11:42 PM

Nice track. Wooooo, long straight, looks fun. I love the way it has great run off areas instead of armco barriers. Good for drivers like me :rolleyes:

DHE11 02-24-2018 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedsilva (Post 9939087)
wow

It gets better....
They are building a drift, rally cross and go kart stadium circuit.
That’s to go with drag strip and the 0-1000m test strip which is part of the runway for the airport!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519508162.jpg

DHE11 03-02-2018 05:28 PM

While the fuel cell was out and changing brake master cylinder etc, decided to go the whole way and remove everything.
Welded up all the firewall holes and painted to match the interior and engine bay...


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1520043806.jpg


Only a race car, but will make it nicer to work on!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1520044055.jpg

DHE11 03-03-2018 01:19 PM

Kept dash and gauge surrounds black


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1520115485.jpg

DHE11 03-15-2018 04:06 AM

Final paint test spray and selections done....
Going with number 1 which is the factory code POR009

Tried it up against a much darker code with more blue and maroon, but have stayed with my initial selection of Karminrot, which per the factory code comes out very bright!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521115032.jpg

Sourced inspiration from one of the original 74 IROC colours (bottom right in this photo)
Can wait to see it on the car!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521115140.jpg

Flojo 03-15-2018 04:16 AM

I'd tagken the mint-green(?) left bottom !!

DHE11 03-15-2018 04:21 AM

Early 911’s seem to be able to pull off nearly any colour...

Lots of blues and oranges around particularly on the RSR replicas, and my last car was midnight blue / nearly black, so it was time for a change and looking for something less “done before”

I like the greens too, but there is a strong superstition i inherited from my father who used to race speedway, you don’t have green on race cars....

Eric at Pelican Parts 03-15-2018 08:08 AM

Glad to see you stuck with Karminrot :D

Gman993 03-15-2018 12:10 PM

Great choice D..... it's a FAST colour too

Mothy 03-15-2018 02:54 PM

Hey Darien
Do you have the other half of that ITOC chart with the other cats on it?

Tim

DHE11 03-15-2018 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mothy (Post 9962661)
Hey Darien
Do you have the other half of that ITOC chart with the other cats on it?

Tim

Hi Tim,
See below....
Are you going to change your mind?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521157838.jpg

Mothy 03-15-2018 06:08 PM

Thanks for that.
I’m still going with the modern Carmine Red - closer to car 5 rather than car 11

9elf 03-19-2018 06:53 PM

Amazing build DHE11.

Thanks for the room on the chase. Hope to see the new rocket in the flesh next year.

Craig.

DHE11 03-21-2018 01:45 PM

Jongbloed Racing wheels
 
After much research, decided to select Jongbloed to provide the new set of wheels on project 77.
Ryan @ Jongbloed in California was really helpful in guiding me to the lightest set of wide 17’s I could find (for a reasonable price) that would also hold up to track duty.
Even for relatively large wheels (for an old 911) they will still come out below 15lbs ea :D

Went with the the 305 style as it the lightest, the pattern is simple and strong, but also I like the stepped rim look on the older car and combined with the the smaller centre aids with weight reduction and lower rotating mass which is important as this won’t be a high horsepower car.

Weight savings will be helped by full titanium hardware!
Going with anodised black, but pics below show the style....



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521668381.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521668404.jpg

9elf 03-21-2018 02:40 PM

Hi DHE11.

I'm keen to see how your new 17" wheels turn out. Sub 7 kg must be around 16" Fuchs weight. I've been tossing up buying lighter wheels for ages but the cost always makes me break out in sweats :)

Eric at Pelican Parts 03-21-2018 04:29 PM

This will be interesting to see on your 911! Personally it isn't really my style, but I LOVE those weights!!!

chrisbalich 03-21-2018 05:07 PM

the Jongbloed booth at PRI every year is a dangerous place. so many nice wheels and the staff are always super helpful.

DHE11 03-22-2018 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric at Pelican Parts (Post 9970559)
This will be interesting to see on your 911! Personally it isn't really my style, but I LOVE those weights!!!

Hi Eric,
Yeah, im really happy about the weight of these rims, should really help with overall project goal of getting in the 2100lb range. The bang for buck factor with wheels is multiplied because its unsprung weight, hence why I have spent so long selecting the right ones....

Understand is not the traditional 911 wheel, but think the black on black it will be quite understated - will find out in a few weeks!
This was the other option, 557 style....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521713832.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisbalich (Post 9970625)
the Jongbloed booth at PRI every year is a dangerous place. so many nice wheels and the staff are always super helpful.

Agree, great company to work with and I have confidence I’m getting a proven product.

DHE11 03-27-2018 03:07 AM

Picked up this hydraulic line lock today thanks to a link in the e-brake delete thread.
Simple, cheap and hopefully effective at isolating the rear circuit to make a lock for my hydro handbrake.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522148354.jpg

There were a few hydro options with mechanical locks but I didn’t like the design and mechanism which looked like it would get bent or give teouble over the long term.
For short bursts moving the car around the pits and general stuff if should do the job.
Competing against newer cars with all the launch control etc, it even help even up the playing field with starts.... particularly hillclimbs and motorkhana.

DHE11 04-10-2018 04:18 AM

Colour is on...
 
And it’s very 70’s and bright !!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523362480.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by DHE11 (Post 9961934)
Final paint test spray and selections done....
Going with number 1 which is the factory code POR009

Tried it up against a much darker code with more blue and maroon, but have stayed with my initial selection of Karminrot, which per the factory code comes out very bright!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521115032.jpg

Sourced inspiration from one of the original 74 IROC colours (bottom right in this photo)
Can wait to see it on the car!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521115140.jpg



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