Zymol question

[DonDavis]

I have the blue Zymol 16oz bottle from Costco that came 2 for one. It's pretty good but I found it to be more work than I wanted.
It says
"For max gloss and shine, lightly spray cool, clean water onto freshly waxed finish and buff with a soft, clean cloth."
Well, I've done that on my 911 probably 5 times and the Durango we used to have twice and my dad's F350 dually ONCE (OMG that's a big vehicle to wax!). The shine really comes out great using that method but it takes some work. I could look at an angle and see the wax begin to "set" as I rubbed. It really had that slick, fast feel afterwards.
Now, my neighbor and I were going to the Phx Flight Porsche show and we were taking my car. Not to enter, just to enjoy the ride. He came out and saw me as I finished washing it and said "I have some great wax, I'll be right back". He was done in 15 minutes, tops. And it looked great. He had the Mothers stuff but I can't remember which one. I'm not really up on waxes and I'm not sure of all Mothers bottle colors but this bottle was red.

[dgcate]

Fig,

If your car is red, I can attest to the fact that 3M Hand Glaze will streak32. I went with what I read on Car Care's site and used 3M hand glaze w/ One Grand Blitz wax, so I was suprised when it showed streaks from certain angles. Said that, car does look alot better, esp from a distance. It's a pretty good work out too.
David

[mperkins]

how about for white 911's?
any rec's??

Maurice
'80 SC Coupe

[Rich L]

how about for white 911's?

Use P21S Paintwork Cleanser to polish and shine. This will also remove the yellowish discoloration from wax buildup on older paint. Follow it up with Blitz Wax for protection.

[jerrykrug]

the guys on the renlist swear by Zaino. I think its ony available directly from them. Have not tried it yet

[Randy Webb]

- Maguire's Medallion uses ionic bonding to "lock" the wax onto the surface.
- It's not clear what the "Meguire's (sic) carnuba cleaner wax" was -- maybe the cheapest stuff they have (maroon bottle). They make a special product for scratches.

- I use the Gold line and am happy. Wax performance varies depending on where you live. The best wax in high sun/smog (Phoenix, LA) may not be best for fog & rain (Orygun).

[sammyg2]

Just for clarification, here's a picture of the Zymol that IMO isn't bad, and the Meguire's wax I think is junk. I paid around $12 for it, I'm sure it isn't top of the line.

[chuckr]

I have detailed Porsches for a living and have had really good luck with certain products.I have not had the opportunity to use all the products out there,nor the money to purchase everything I might want.
First, Zymol has let Turtle Wax manufacture a Cleaner Wax for them in Chicago, read the back of the blue/clear bottle, it will say made in Chicago,Ill.
Second, Griots does not repackage other products as their own. They make and sell some of the finest products for the money on the market,
Can you tell I use and like Griots, their Best of Show Wax and Fine Hand Glaze works fantastic on Guards Red ! 3M Imperial Hand Glaze will not streak or swril if used and removed properly and works very well with One Grand Blitz Wax on Black.The best secret I have is to use lots of new 100% cotton towels when removing polish or wax and to ask questions when you see a Porsche that is your color that looks really good. different colors tend to respond better to different waxes, I use a different wax for black than for red.Some cars like a polish and some prefer a glaze.I tend to stay away from Polymers and synthetic waxes, I have seen the white milky buildup they cause, it can be removed,but is is very time consuming.Scratches.... I have the best luck with 3M Rubbing Compound 1500 Grit.The 1500 grit is the key,and I follow this with a good polish or glaze like the 3M or the Griots then a wax.Cleaner waxes are good if you have not waxed in 6 or 7 months.Use a cleaner wax, then a polish or glaze then a wax.Carcareonline had good prices and pretty good advice too ! There are other good products out there, I just haven't had the chance to use them, I am not a big fan of Mequiars waxes, their other products, like their tire gel, are really good.I wish I had the money to try some of the really high dollor waxes like Pinnicle or some of the Zymol estate waxes,there are a couple of others that I just can't seem to remember now but, like someone else mentioned in an earlier post here... any wax is better than no wax and spring is comming so lets get those babys out and get'um shined up for some serious bug killing !

[kepperly]

I do not claim to be a pro, but heres my thoughts. For the person just learning how to do it right, you can go to Griots web site and print out a 60+ page how to on cleaning and shineing your car.
Some of it you have to take with a grain of salt as most of his
recommendations are Griot product focused.
The most important part is to keep the car clean and the surface free from contaminants. I personally use Mother Three step with
cleaner, glaze, then carnuba. I use a Porter Cable 6in. random orbital buffer (Lowes $107.00) with foam pads . I also buff off the wax with a micro fiber bonnet. Then I don,t wash the car ever!!!
when after driving it ,it get dirty i use a bath towel wetted with
hot water and folded in 1/8ths, I wipe off 1/8th of the car and dry it with as soft a terry cloth towel as I can find and only use a new
section to dry each area. This give you 16 clean surfaces to wipe off the dust and dirt and doesn't leave any trapped water to sit
and rust out the car. When I start to see swirls I rewax and Buff with the micro fiber bonnett. I do all three step only about twice a year if that many.

Keith

[pwd72s]

Keith? You don't claim to be a pro???

[Randy Webb]

You know -- the very best thing you can do is keep your car in a garage... My only problem is rock chips. The wax lasts 1-2 years.

The other car has to sit out in the rain (winter) and sun (summer). It needs a lot of work every few months.

[ricwon]

does anybody use a clay bar on their car before using the glaze and wax? i was curios if it works or if a cleaner/wax works just as well.

[TomTurtle]

I've been using Zaino a variety of products for a year or so with good results. First heard about it on the roadfly.com web site. They have various products depending on the current condition of your finish; everything from a compounding-type product to a "speed shine" type product. They also have a car wash product, tire treatment etc. Problem is you have to order it direct from the factory as I don't think they have very many distributors. Their web site is www.zainobros.com. Check it out.

[Harlan Chinn]

Clay bars are a must especially if you can feel tiny rough speckles in your paint. Griot's Garage, located in Tacoma, WA sells the clay bar and other car maintenance supplies. My friends with F-cars and I swear by them when used properly. That is gently wash the entire car with your favorite car wash. Towel dry thoroughly, then take the clay bar and rub small sections at a time along with Johnson's Jubilee furniture polish. This keeps the clay moist and moving over your car's paint finish picking up all of the imbedded particles in your paint. After each panel is clayed, wipe off excess Johnson's polish and then you can use your favorite wax. For a perfect smooth as a babies butt shine. Depending on how much you drive your car, clay about twice a year. Once if you don't drive it much.

[RANDY P]

clay bars work like a charm - I use the overspray Meguiars stuff at the paint supply shops lubed with the appropiate spray. Follow up with Imperial Hand Glaze, then The Wax Shop Liquid wax - probably the easiest wax in the world to apply, best stuff I've used. Talk about a easy process...As slick as a wet bar of soap and you can see yourself a mile away in it -

One of the biggest things is not letting the car get too dirty between washes, and only drying the car with fresly washed towels, no chamois (101 projects tip). I usually only hose down the car - if it's extremely dirty then a bit of car wash soap then.

rjp

[targa911man]

I tried the Meguiars on my guards red Targa and didn't like it. Switched to the blue Zymol and have been satisfied, but my car is a daily driver and, while I of course want a nice shine, I'm not looking for concours quality, effort, and time. We've had a lot of rain and snow this winter and the water is still beading, shine still good; last waxed in October.