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ajserrano 10-05-2011 10:37 PM

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ajserrano 10-05-2011 10:37 PM

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...and off for the evening, enough pix for today.

Cairo94507 10-06-2011 07:50 AM

OMG! The rotisserie you built for the car just floors me. That is an incredible piece of equipment. I wish you were my neighbor so I could have just shown up at your garage and watched this in progress. My six would have probably restored itself by osmosis.

I can't believe the skills being demonstrated here; the documentation is superb and I love it. I am so glad you took the time to take all of these pictures and are now putting them together into a thread that hopefully will be locked for future reference for the rest of us as we stumble our way along the restoration path.

ajserrano 10-06-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cairo94507 (Post 6295465)
OMG! The rotisserie you built for the car just floors me. That is an incredible piece of equipment. I wish you were my neighbor so I could have just shown up at your garage and watched this in progress. My six would have probably restored itself by osmosis.

I can't believe the skills being demonstrated here; the documentation is superb and I love it. I am so glad you took the time to take all of these pictures and are now putting them together into a thread that hopefully will be locked for future reference for the rest of us as we stumble our way along the restoration path.

This could possibly be the "shot-in-the-arm" I need to post the next 3,789 photographs... lol

Thank you for the post.

Armando

PS: The reason I wanted to build this rotisserie was so that Mark Spraker would have an easier time to lower and raise the chassis in the rotisserie by himself, when no one else is around to help and lend a hand. This tool is so easy to use, it's not funny. One person can easily lower or raise the tub, with one hand.

Flieger 10-06-2011 08:23 AM

What did you do before digital cameras? There must be 500 on just that Monza trunk lid. :eek:

You must have a whole server room full of hard drives full of photos.

ajserrano 10-06-2011 08:48 AM

Digital Media...
 
My very first digital camera was produced by Logitech in 1991 It was only B/W and had two buttons; one to turn it on, the other to snap the photo. No USB interface, but just a simple RS-232 9-pin serial cable. Oh, and the purchase price was about $1,100, not a bad deal at the time, and most of us didn't have a clue about what was coming. Those were my early digital media days.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317920194.jpg

I have about eight computers on my home network, two servers and Mac Pro Quad-Xeon (old technology now) as a dedicated video editor. All in all, over 12 terabytes of hi-speed storage backed up on a 40Gb DLT tape drive (that's a lot of tapes). :(

Flieger 10-06-2011 09:04 AM

Wow, I can't believe you bothered with something like that. I was using an AE-1 up until the 2000s. Went digital and never looked back. No more worrying about if the shot came out. Just blast away and you'll get something.

I still have not stepped up to a DSLR, though.

I had a Canon S1 3.2 MP that was very nice to use and very versatile. Now I have a Nikon P100 10MP but I am not so sure it is that much better. The 26x optical zoom is nice, though. No swapping between huge telescope lenses.

Tapes! :eek:

ajserrano 10-06-2011 09:15 AM

In the early digital days, it seemed as I upgraded my digital camera every six months, after that (post 2000), a bit longer by selling the old and buying new every two years or less. A constant migration...

Yes, I still use tapes for back-ups, but also use cheap hi-speed USB external large capacity drives (very inexpensive these days). BTW, I recall paying $1,200 for a 600 Mb HD drive in the mid 80's. At the time I thought it was the last drive I would ever need. Ya! Right!!!

PS: Ask Wayne how many terabytes he has as storage for this forum, I wonder what that is...

Dave at Pelican Parts 10-06-2011 02:02 PM

Did you ever consider putting reinforcements inside the trailing arms? Racer Chris (from Tangerine Racing) on the 914world BBS wrote up some info about that. An interior "bulkhead" in the trailing arm was good for (I think?) the same torsional stiffness as the external reinforcement, at 1/3 the weight. And a simple tube through the arm, similar to the brake adjusting tube, was good for something like 3/4 of the stiffness at a small fraction of the weight.

It's not what the original GTs did, but the bearings for the trailing arms probably aren't either. ;)

--DD

ajserrano 10-06-2011 02:12 PM

Hi Dave! No, I missed reading that thread, but what we did was the more common way of reinforcing the arms, except making them look so pretty. You're right, the spherical bearings is all current "hybrid" stuff, but I couldn't resist the improvement in suspension, besides, you can hardly see it...

quicksix 10-06-2011 03:46 PM

Hey Armando,
I have run out of superlatives for workmanship and attention to detail.
This build is kinda like the Singer build for the 911.
And before a rash of wadded panties breakout, there are big differences but the philosophy
is the same.
From my perspective,ymmv, imho,any other disclaimers
Again, I look forward to every picture and detail.
John

ajserrano 10-06-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by quicksix (Post 6296325)
...This build is kinda like the Singer build for the 911. John

Thank you John. BTW, suspensse is now killing me; when you get a chance, could you please send me the link to this "Singer build for the 911"? I'm not familiar with the thread.

I'm having withdrawals because it is difficult for me to upload the sequence of photos in this thread in the actual time line and order. I much rather just cut-to-the-chase and show what we're doing today. :(

Here is another "flash-forward" photo, just one and it is fresh as I took the photo less than an hour ago. Please note we're not done with this trunk lid yet. It should be complete by this coming Monday. The 914-6 GT rear trunk lid is turning out a whole lot better than anything I would have ever expected, but then again, it's Mark Spraker so I shouldn't be surprised one bit.

The lid looks so "Porsche factory", is in one word, pathetic! Really! :D

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Mr9146 10-06-2011 07:03 PM

Nice project, dude.

I'm extremely interested in that 911R exhaust you recently acquired...

ajserrano 10-06-2011 07:43 PM

Custom details...
 
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Originally Posted by SirAndy (Post 6289449)
Very nice!
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I'm thinking about going down that route with my /6 but add in a few more custom details.

SmileWavy

Hi Andy, I too added a few 'non-factory GT' modifications to my GT project, but my goal from the very beginning was to try and not deviate too much away from most recognizable 914-6 GT features. None of the Porsche factory built 914-6 GT cars were 100% exactly alike. The following three GT's are probably the closest to each other in the way they were finished.

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My 914-6 GT project will have a few features that more closely follows this particular GT Monte Carlo Rallye 914-6 GT (S-Y 7716) - sn 914.143.0141 Photo Gallery by 914-6 GT at pbase.com

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It also borrows some features from the 1970 factory GT prototype, the eight cylinder project (aka #121 Sonauto GT)
Sonauto #121 Porsche 914-6 GT - sn 914.043.0457 Photo Gallery by 914-6 GT at pbase.com

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317958481.jpg

...as well as the Strahle GT The Strahle Porsche 914-6 GT - sn 914.043.0163 Photo Gallery by 914-6 GT at pbase.com

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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317958841.jpg

Because I'm obviously not restoring a 914 car with racing history, I had more latittude when I started with a blank canvas, a very nice factory original 914-6 :cool:

ajserrano 10-06-2011 08:02 PM

911R Exhaust...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr9146 (Post 6296725)
Nice project, dude.

I'm extremely interested in that 911R exhaust you recently acquired...

Hi Marco, thank you for your interest in my Porsche parts. I don't have 100% confirmation on the purchase yet,
but is probably going to the Kremer 911 S/T owned by Frank Dietzel, the car is located in Germany.
If anything changes, I'll let you know.

Marco, did you noticed this thread??? http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?70411-Who-makes-a-good-R-ST-RSR-muffler
(10/06/11 Update) The 911R / 911 ST Exhaust System was sold to Frank Dietzel...

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Mr9146 10-06-2011 08:50 PM

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</div>Hi Marco, thank you for your interest in my Porsche parts. I don't have 100% confirmation on the purchase yet, <br>
but is probably going to the Kremer 911 S/T owned by Frank Dietzel, the car is located in Germany.<br>
If anything changes, I'll let you know.<br>
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Marco, did you noticed this thread??? <a href="http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?70411-Who-makes-a-good-R-ST-RSR-muffler" target="_blank">http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?70411-Who-makes-a-good-R-ST-RSR-muffler</a> <br>
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Love it! Great rare stuff you're able to scare up, man.

BTW, were you able to recall the name of the company that repops the R exhaust?

quicksix 10-06-2011 09:29 PM

Way cool
I will post that link, Armando
I have never seen that sway bar setup before,is there an advantage to the under trunk configuration?
With regards to the rear roll bar mount on 0163, is that the best way to mount it?

Raise your hand if fresh unpainted fiberglass "does it for you"

SirAndy 10-07-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by quicksix (Post 6296935)
I have never seen that sway bar setup before,is there an advantage to the under trunk configuration?

Free travel plus longer and adjustable drop links.

The stock rear bar will hit the underside of the trunk floor, especially on a lowered car.

:cool:

ajserrano 10-07-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr9146 (Post 6296888)
BTW, were you able to recall the name of the company that repops the R exhaust?

Hello Marco, I have not been able to find anything yet on the 911R muffler, but I will keep you in mind. BTW, the original 911R exhaust is sold, it is going to the Kremer 911 S/T in Germany and I wanted you to know. :rolleyes:

ajserrano 10-07-2011 09:35 AM

The best way to mount it...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quicksix (Post 6296935)
I have never seen that sway bar setup before,is there an advantage to the under trunk configuration? With regards to the rear roll bar mount on 0163, is that the best way to mount it?

I've heard most 914-6 cars handle better with the rear sway bar disattached, there are of course, always more than one opinion, not to mention set-ups and configurations.
In my case, if it makes a handling improvement or not, it doesn't really matter, I implemented this in-trunk sway bar set up because not only did I liked the way it looks,
I was also copying that feature of the Strahle car in my GT project.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318007988.jpg

Eventually, I may be able to 'test' and see if I can feel the difference... ;)

Here are a couple of "flash-forward" photos showing the top and bottom trunk areas of my GT.
Not sure if anyone can tell, or noticed, but those are 906/910 sway bar Magnesium pivot blocks,
I have the entire install kit from the Porsche factory and including two 906/910 hallow sway bars.
When completed, I'm expecting it will all look very period correct. :D

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BTW, on the second photo the suspension is compressed and I still have clearance from the spring to the modified section of the body work.

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